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From: Skip Sherrod <skip-sherrod_at_comcast.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Boat Color - Klepper faded
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:30:10 -0500
To see a couple of red Kleppers that were used on a major expedition look here:

http://www.ulm-outdoor.de/bild.php?bild=HafenSibari6.jpg&beschreibung=Ankunft%20im%20Hafen%20Sibari

Skip


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From: John MacKechnie <bigmac1_at_enter.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Boat Color - Klepper faded
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:53:58 -0400
> I wonder about that too.  I don't read German, but their European tour
began
> in May 2000.  There was another date of Jan. 2001 that might have been an
> ending date.  If you check the home page you see two bright red boats at
the
> start of the trip.  Could this have happened in nine months?

Skip

Looks like the date on the photo with the faded boats in April 30. 2002,
exactly two year after the start of the trip. So maybe we can expect major
fadeout with a red Klepper after 730 days of exposure. That would take me
until I'm 200 years old. I think that I'll be safe with a red boat.

John M


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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Boat Color - Klepper faded
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 06:06:21 +1000
John wrote,
>So maybe we can expect major fadeout with a red
>Klepper after 730 days of exposure. That would
>take me until I'm 200 years old.

G'Day,
		In Australia, paddling an olive green Klepper ten to fourteen hours a week
in salt water, I began to see fading after 6 months and significant fading
after 2 years. As mentioned before "Fabricguard" is supposed to help slow
the colour change. I think it has worked on my boat although I like the look
of a somewhat faded olive green Klepper! The fading doesn't seem to indicate
reduced strength. A friend says he doesn't want to use the Fabricguard yet
on his red Klepper until it's faded a bit and looks the part.

All the best, PeterO



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From: Dave Gorjup <dgorjup_at_cox.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Boat Color - Klepper faded
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:22:32 -0400
I don't know if it's available in Oz but I've read and heard that regular 
applications of '303', a uv blocker is a good solution to the problem. I 
use it on my plastic kayak regularly. Does anyone have any first hand info 
on '303' use on other materials? I do wish I'd had this stuff when I had my 
Columbia 28 sailboat.
Dave G.
The other Poquoson, Va. paddler

At 16:06 7/16/02, PeterO wrote:
>G'Day,
>                 In Australia, paddling an olive green Klepper ten to 
> fourteen hours a week
>in salt water, I began to see fading after 6 months and significant fading
>after 2 years. As mentioned before "Fabricguard" is supposed to help slow
>the colour change. I think it has worked on my boat although I like the look
>of a somewhat faded olive green Klepper! The fading doesn't seem to indicate
>reduced strength. A friend says he doesn't want to use the Fabricguard yet
>on his red Klepper until it's faded a bit and looks the part.
>
>All the best, PeterO


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From: David Walker <dwalker_at_newwave.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Boat Color - Klepper faded
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:08:40 -0700
John MacKechnie wrote:

>  If you check the home page you see two bright red boats at
> the
> > start of the trip.  Could this have happened in nine months?
>
> Skip
>
> Looks like the date on the photo with the faded boats in April 30. 2002,
> exactly two year after the start of the trip. So maybe we can expect major
> fadeout with a red Klepper after 730 days of exposure.

What I was wondering was if the boats are in fact as faded as they appear or
could some of the faded look be simply due to salt and other deposits which
would go away after a good scrub? Leaving a much cleaner and brighter looking
deck - faded some what as one would expect.

I have about a ten year old klepper with a blue deck, the previous owner stated
it had spent most of its life in Arizona with some trips into Mexico. Both
places where I would expect allot of sun fading. The deck is faded a bit as
would be expected but not nearly as faded as the red decked boats in the
photos. So I suspect they are simply in need of a good cleaning to reveal the
actual state of the coloring.
But then again I am frequently wrong about things . :-(

David



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