Steve said: <snip> <<<What I'm looking for is a second boat for more aggressive paddling. A beater if you will. Something tougher and more maneuverable. A boat that I can run up on the rocks, seal launch off barnacles, play around in surf and rock gardens. A boat that wouldn't likely be destroyed if I were to go paddling with Doug Lloyd. Speed and storage isn't too important but it's quite likely that I would use it for trips of up to a week or so in duration.>>> <snip> Steve, Looks like the Wicked Witch of the West is back, namely good ol' Mother Nature, or more precisely, her nice westerly flow that hitherto has been deflected northward by a stationary high for the last four months plus. Little wind, sunshine everyday, and no rain. What the heck is that, as far as good paddling weather, eh? So, get that beater and beat on it! As far as beating on boats, I was out practicing seal launches. I've gotten my seal landings down pat, but I've found in the past that launching of steep rocks can be a real problem (this being necessary after landing on certain remote spots where the swell picked up, making normal launching difficult). I found some 40% gradient rocks that were rather smooth. The biggest issue dealing with a steep gradient (relatively speaking) is trying to get into the cockpit without the kayak sliding forward and a small catastrophe ensuing. I was able to experiment with some rope, using a quick knot that easily pulled free while I was seated (it held the kayak in place on the incline) in the kayak with the skirt in place. I was about 20-feet up, and the sliding down runs were rather exciting. While I was able to work on the technique (I develop a lot of my own techniques and answer to no man for what I do), I unfortunately fell out of the kayak trying to climb back up the slippery embankment after one of the planned wet exits. My relatively new Speedtech wrist barometer/ watch/ knot meter ($200.00 cnd) which was under the deck bungy disappeared. I then muttered "bangfangledblubberpus," which is the preferred explative for a Baptist of dubious intelligence and one culpable of willfull disregard for good equipment stewardship. Uh hu. Well, another sacrifice to the water gods, whom I am sure had conspired with their land-based counterparts to extract yet another offering. It would appear I always have to answer to them, at some point. Good paddling, good kayak beating, and don't leave too much plastic on the barnacles. See you on the water sometime soon. And don't forget your sponsons, they are just the ticket for taking a crap at sea, apparently, which is something you might do if you come paddling with me. Doug in Victoria -- waiting on the "good" weather. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Does this mean if one can invent a good sp*ns*n repellent, we'll conversly have a good BS repellent? Steve Holtzman ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Lloyd >And don't forget your >sponsons, they are just the ticket for taking a crap at sea, apparently, >which is something you might do if you come paddling with me. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Steve Holtzman wrote: > Does this mean if one can invent a good sp*ns*n repellent, we'll conversly > have a good BS repellent? Absolutely. But please, this matter of involuntary bowel movements in the face of grave danger at sea is a serious matter, and not one to be obfuscated with such a hilarious discharge as above. And I should add that a number of years ago, I was out paddling some rough waters/ surf with another paddler crazier than myself. He lightheartedly mentioned that he could smell something awful, then proceeded to ask, as if to laud it over me, if I had browned my wetsuit during the previous wave set. Fortunately, and honestly, I was able to say no, it was just that I always smelled that way. DL > > > Steve Holtzman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Doug Lloyd > > >And don't forget your > >sponsons, they are just the ticket for taking a crap at sea, apparently, > >which is something you might do if you come paddling with me. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 11:35 PM 11/5/02 -0800, Doug Lloyd wrote: > I was out paddling some rough waters/ surf with another paddler crazier >than myself. You mean there really is one? -- Wes --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wes Boyd's Kayak Place NEW URL! -- http://www.kayakplace.com Kayaks for Big Guys (And Gals) | Trip Reports | Places To Go | Boats & Gear --------------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug, Has your wet suit been teaching mine some new tricks? I swear that when I take my wetsuit off, it just walks itself back to the car---or was it the sp*ns*ns that made it stay upright? Steve Holtzman ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Lloyd I was out paddling some rough waters/ surf with another paddler crazier than myself. He lightheartedly mentioned that he could smell something awful, then proceeded to ask, as if to laud it over me, if I had browned my wetsuit during the previous wave set. Fortunately, and honestly, I was able to say no, it was just that I always smelled that way. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Wes Boyd wrote: > At 11:35 PM 11/5/02 -0800, Doug Lloyd wrote: > > > I was out paddling some rough waters/ surf with another paddler crazier > >than myself. > > You mean there really is one? Wes, Actually, there are are some very competent paddlers (ocean kayakers) 'round here. The one I was thinking of was Gord who used to run SeaTrek out of Sidney, BC. There's a reversing falls in close vicinity to our Victoria club house. Gord used to launch his kayak from 30 feet up -- from the side of the chasm where the gorge's restricted flow is located -- flinging himself into the fast current below (where he would eventually bob to the surface downstream). His plastic Capella didn't take too bad a beating, 'cause he would pivot it off the edge before _freefalling_to the tidal water below the Gorge-Tillicum Bridge. My seal launches are a little less dramatic (discounting the one I did off the high diving board one night at a local pool). But, the wear on my hull from my long slides down are far worse. Having said that, I do find my fiberglass hull easier to maintain. A plastic kayak hull "galls" far too easily, especially on barnacles. After a while, the plastic kayak becomes a virtual case for recycling. With my Nordkapp, I just fill all the gouges with "feather-fill" fast-dry polyester autobody filler using a white coloured hardener, then thin spray white undercoat after sanding, and then top coat with epoxy-like aircraft industry paint. Major repairs are done with epoxy, which is why I don't recoat the hull with sprayed-on gelcoat (polyester/ epoxy incompatibilities). I also have that full 17-foot strip of plastic embedded partially along the keel line, finished off by 1/2 round brass at the stern. I broke-up the former UHMW strip trying to seal land on the Storm Islands a few years ago, so now use a softer marine plastic for the strip (more like the plastic in plastic kayaks) that galls easier but seems more flexible. The strip sections are easily replaced. I've broken off the rear rudder mount a few times seal launching, but I have extra VCP C-Trim rudder mounts already pre fitted and cut to conform to the stern profile through the two embedded bolt-to-internal-nut holes, so repairs are quick to do (I carry one spare on long trips). So while I may be "crazy," I do compensate with some applied technology and have yet to seriously consider retiring my venerable Nordkapp. I mention all this only because I just reconsidered what Steve Holtzman posted in response previously, and I think his subtext was to accuse me of being a BS'er. While I might be a wind-bag and occasionally use textual contrivances and egomaniacal appearances to drive my posts to a punch line (like saying other paddlers might need to crap at sea coming out with me so I could make HaHa about sponsons), it does bother me that folks might think me untruthful. I will admit my last post excluded the fact that, while I was practicing seal launches using various rope/bow line arrangements/ knot-quick releases, I was not on the saltchuck. Indeed, the fresh water lake was a far easier domain to try and fine tune techniques, and the rocks far smoother to slide down. The small shrubs gave me the "hold-down" points. In the end, I gave up, finding it easier to throw the kayak off the edge, jump in after it, and perform the superior reentry-and-roll (speed is essential before the kayak washes back on the rocks on real open coast waters); that's what I traditionally do on the open coast. You can even tie off your kayak to some kelp, and swim in to avoid hull damage with a fully loaded kayak. These are modified techniques from the Tsunami Ranger brand of kayaking, adapted to solo open water touring from a closed-deck sea kayak. Crazy to some, BS to others, and perfectly normal for me. What is normal? A setting on your dryer? Anyway, my paddling season has finally arrived, I'm working out at my home gym again and my leg is almost healed. I await the first big storm arriving tomorrow. With a bit of tremoulousness, I'm eager for my mistress again (and trying out my new drysuit for the first time). I'll catch up with some of you fellow goof balls later. (PS I got a nice email from Kaitlin, explaining her contacts at the CG, and what she is up to. Not sure why she didn't state this up front on both chat lines.) 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