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From: <salle_at_onebox.com>
subject: (no subject)
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:25:16 -0500
For years I used Thule racks & their H2Go Kayak Saddles with my Necky Looksha 3(Kevlar) - the sides of the Thule H2Go saddles were adjustable and wrapped up tight against the side of the kayak to form the cradle and prevent any sideways movement.  A good snug fit and secured the boat perfectly.  However, I recently purchased a new car and put Yakima Racks & their Mako Saddles on it and cannot get the sides of the Mako's to come up against the side of Looksha to form the cradle; therefore, it is not holding the boat securely.

The plastic used in the Mako's is just not very flexible and strap pressure alone will not pull them up against the sides of the boat.

So, a twofold question?
1) has anyone had the same problem and come up with a solution

-or-

2) ideally, has anyone ever made Thule H2Go Cradles work on Yakima bars.  I still have the Thule saddle carriers and would gladly use them if there was a way to make them fit the round Yakima bars.

Thank you,
Sally
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From: Melissa Reese <melissa_at_bonnyweeboaty.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Mako saddles vs...
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:55:09 -0800
On Sunday, November 24, 2002, at 2:25:16 PM PST, salle_at_onebox.com
wrote:

> 1) has anyone had the same problem and come up with a solution

I've been using the old Yakima TLC saddles for years, and they've
always been great for my single hard chine boat (Caribou). A while
back, I wanted a second set of saddles, so I ordered some Makos (all
that was currently available from Yakima). I was very
disappointed...same problems you had with them. I returned them.

I think the Mako design is inferior to the TLC saddles in several
ways, and would only fit a limited type of hull design (wide, rounded
hulls). Even if they "fit" such a hull, I don't really think they're a
very secure system. The little rubber inserts are just too small, and
in addition to the integrated strap system, one would still have to
use a secondary set of straps to secure the boat the the crossbars.

Here's the problem as I see it now...

The best solution is to find an old set of TLCs.  However...anyone who
is happy with their TLCs is not going to let them go...especially
considering the alternative Yakima product (Mako).

I prefer the round Yakima crossbars over the Thule square bars, so
what I'd really like to see is a comeback of the TLC saddle (or
something very similar).

-- 
Melissa

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From: <SNStone_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Mako saddles vs...
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:17:40 EST
> The best solution is to find an old set of TLCs.  However...anyone who
> is happy with their TLCs is not going to let them go...especially
> considering the alternative Yakima product (Mako).
> 

I have one pair of the TLC's and one pair of Hully Rollers I am willing to 
sell. I may have two sets to sell if a set I lent to a friend come back to 
me. 

The reason I am willing to part with these is that I went to a kayak stacker 
arrangement that fits my needs better as I can carry more boats. As an aside 
the next car rack I buy will be a Thule. I am tired of round bars rotating. 

Contact me back channel if interested.

sid

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From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Mako saddles vs...
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:42:47 -0800
Sid,

I couldn't agree with you more! Although I have square Thule bars, I used to
use Yak rollers in the rear and Yak saddles in the front.

I've since switched to Thule Hydroglides in the rear and Thule H2Go saddles
in the front. Wont part with them!! The hold the boats much more securely
and don't leave any marks on the hulls either.

Steve
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From: <SNStone_at_aol.com>
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> As an aside
> the next car rack I buy will be a Thule. I am tired of round bars
rotating.
>
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