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From: Strosaker <strosaker_at_cox.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Bunch of Stuff
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:55:13 -0800
Paddlewisers,





More on breaking fiberglass: Last weekend a friend told me that he damaged the
hull of his Falcon 18 again while playing in the surf on a sandy beach. By the
way, his nick name is now "Hull Cracker" and we call his kayak "Eggshell." The
kayak is a nice design, but the lay-up seems too light.





More on failing skegs: During the recent skeg reliability discussion on this
list, the Kajak Sport skeg system received some good comments. Well, after
some surf launches and landings today, a friend's Kajak Sport skeg jammed up
and the cable in the hatch area is bowing when the rod-mounted knob is pulled
back to try to deploy the skeg. Fortunately, this kayak is not skeg dependant.
By the way, I still think Kajak Sport has some of the best quality kayaks and
skegs on the market.





Dangerous high cockpit coamings: While playing in the surf today, a friend had
to punch a fast dumping four-footer, and despite hitting the wave in the
tucked forward position, he was knocked back flat on the back deck.
Afterwards, he complained about back pain from hitting the rear of the
coaming, which is rather high on his kayak.





Plastic, plastic, plastic: After being without a plastic kayak for a year now,
it is so nice to have one again. I really missed being able to bang into and
slide over rocks with impunity. Free at last, free at last! By the way, the
plastic kayak is a Current Designs Squamish, which I bought for banging around
on day paddles. It's a zippy mini sea kayak.





Cool combat roll: While I was playing in the surf today, I broached on a
dumping four-footer as it was breaking on me. Despite leaning and bracing
horizontally (all the way on my side) into the wave, I was high enough on the
dumper that it knocked me back over in the opposite direction. While tumbling
in the mess, I felt a strong pull on the right blade of my paddle, so to
prevent injury, I let go of the paddle with my right hand and hung on tight
with my left as the paddle swung in an arc. Then I set up with both hands on
the paddle and popped up.








Duane Strosaker


www.rollordrown.com


Southern California


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From: TomL <tletourn_at_maine.rr.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bunch of Stuff
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:39:42 -0500
>Plastic, plastic, plastic: After being without a plastic kayak for a year now,
>it is so nice to have one again. I really missed being able to bang into and
>slide over rocks with impunity. Free at last, free at last! By the way, the
>plastic kayak is a Current Designs Squamish, which I bought for banging around
>on day paddles. It's a zippy mini sea kayak.


Duane...

Read a great review in SK (Feb 03) about the CD Squamish. That's CD's new 
15.5 foot plastic boat? They mentioned it was a boat designed for the 
smaller paddler in mind, correct? At well under $1000 I thought it was a 
keeper. But since I'm 6 foot 2 inches and 185 pounds, I don't stand a 
chance. Bummer.

Tom 


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From: Strosaker <strosaker_at_cox.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bunch of Stuff (Squamish)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:45:36 -0800
Tom,





Yes, the CD Squamish is a mini sea kayak. I am 5', 10" tall and weigh 165
pounds, and if I were much bigger I wouldn't fit in it. It makes a fun little
day boat for us average size people.





Duane


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From: Joan Volin <jvolin_at_optonline.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bunch of Stuff
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:28:13 -0500
<By the way, I still think Kajak Sport has some of the best quality kayaks
and
<skegs on the market.

<Dangerous high cockpit coamings: While playing in the surf today, a friend
had
<to punch a fast dumping four-footer, and despite hitting the wave in the
<tucked forward position, he was knocked back flat on the back deck.
<Afterwards, he complained about back pain from hitting the rear of the
<coaming, which is rather high on his kayak.


Was this the friend who was paddling the Kajak Sport?  The reason I ask is
that I have a Kajak Sport, and while I agree totally with what you say about
the quality of the boat, the coaming may force me to sell the boat.  I find
that it pushes my PFD and tow belt up, so that I'm really uncomfortable.
Also, I lay back when I roll, and I can't really lay back in this boat,
which has been interfering with my roll.  The result is that after spending
a lot of money on this boat, I spend more time paddling my Romany (which is
a lovely boat that I would never part with - but I had hoped to paddle my
new boat also).

Does anyone have any solutions for this problem?  I haven't done so yet, but
I am going to try padding the seat a bit (i.e., using a ThermoRest pad,at
least to begin with).  I don't know what that will do to center of gravity &
stability, but I also don't know how much it will help.  Replacing the
coaming is probably not an option.

Joan


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From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bunch of Stuff
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:54:29 -0800
Duane Strosaker said:
> More on failing skegs: During the recent skeg reliability discussion on
this
> list, the Kajak Sport skeg system received some good comments. Well, after
> some surf launches and landings today, a friend's Kajak Sport skeg jammed
up
> and the cable in the hatch area is bowing when the rod-mounted knob is
pulled
> back to try to deploy the skeg. Fortunately, this kayak is not skeg
dependant.
> By the way, I still think Kajak Sport has some of the best quality kayaks
and
> skegs on the market.

Duane,

I think you will find that the skeg on your new Current Designs boat will be
pretty much trouble free. The skeg in my Gulfstream only jammed once and
that was when a 350 pound woman, decided I needed help launching while I was
attaching my skirt. She came up, pushed down with all of her weight on my
boat and at the same time pushed me into the surf. After about 20 minutes,
all of the sand and gravel washed out and the skeg operated normally again.

The only other problem with them that I am aware of occurs with the older
sliders that CD used like the one I have. Instead of a rod, mine is a cable
and if you are not careful, it is easy to pull away from the boat and that
will cause the cable to kink.

It was fun paddling with you today and I REALLY like your new boat - but I
think I'm a little too big to fit in it.

Steve Holtzman


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From: Steve Scherrer <flatpick_at_teleport.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bunch of Stuff
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 06:36:59 -0800
Joan asks:>>Does anyone have any solutions for this problem?  I haven't done
so yet, but
I am going to try padding the seat a bit (i.e., using a ThermoRest pad,at
least to begin with).  I don't know what that will do to center of gravity &
stability, but I also don't know how much it will help.  Replacing the
coaming is probably not an option.<<

Seat pads will help with the coaming dilema.  So will moving the seat
forward.  One affects stability the other trim.  Raising the seat will also
give you more leverage in your paddle strokes and leverage over edge
control.  Racers like high seats.  moving it forward could make it hard to
get a leg out without lifting your butt up first, IMHO not a good thing.  I
dislike ocean cockpits for this reason.  we do alot of technical landings/
launches/ rescues where  cockpit clearance is King.

Start with your therma rest 1/2 inflated, but realize a thermarest is
squishy and will be unlike a *solid* foam pad.  Use it for stability
feedback.  If it works go with a solid pad, glued in.  I have raised the
seat in the Milly with 5/8" foam pad to great advantage.

btw, a friend had Seaward rebuild his Legend cockpit to a low slung rim and
it is sweet, tho it cost him $800 Canadian.


 Then Duane Strosaker said:
> > More on failing skegs: During the recent skeg reliability discussion on
> this
> > list, the Kajak Sport skeg system received some good comments. Well,
after
> > some surf launches and landings today, a friend's Kajak Sport skeg
jammed
> up
> > and the cable in the hatch area is bowing when the rod-mounted knob is
> pulled
> > back to try to deploy the skeg. Fortunately, this kayak is not skeg
> dependant.
> > By the way, I still think Kajak Sport has some of the best quality
kayaks
> and
> > skegs on the market.

This will happen whenever ANY skeg cable is pushed when the skeg blade is
pinned.  I've seen it on lots of boats.  Something's gotta give.  With
NDK/VCP it's the cable at the skeg or at the slider.  It bows out and viola,
SKEG REPAIR.  KS it's usually just inside the cockpit or dayhatch.  You need
to epoxy the tube back onto the sidewall of the boat, a PITA. With CD I've
seen the cable bow at the slider (old style) and have yet to see a new style
fail.  That's why the NDK/VCP bungie system is so bomber, no chance of
bending a bungie.  But this system comes with a whole buttload of other
issues!

Skeg rule # 1.  Do NOT force the slider.

>
and finally Steve writes:>>
> I think you will find that the skeg on your new Current Designs boat will
be
> pretty much trouble free. The skeg in my Gulfstream only jammed once and
> that was when a 350 pound woman, decided I needed help launching while I
was
> attaching my skirt. She came up, pushed down with all of her weight on my
> boat and at the same time pushed me into the surf. After about 20 minutes,
> all of the sand and gravel washed out and the skeg operated normally
again.

Skeg rule # 2.  Carry a skeg tool for clearing the debris.  We use a Thrift
store table knife ground down to a bit of a hook, like a climbers nut tool,
with a "around the wrist" tether.  You get one whenever you buy a skeg boat
from us.  AJ did they give you one with your Tempest?

>
> The only other problem with them that I am aware of occurs with the older
> sliders that CD used like the one I have. Instead of a rod, mine is a
cable
> and if you are not careful, it is easy to pull away from the boat and that
> will cause the cable to kink.

The rod is only 8" long and is hollow.  Inside the rod (tube) is the same
ol' cable.  Manufacturers are using the wrong cable for skegs.  Typical skeg
cable is sailboat rigging cable meant to hold up a mast not do *push/pull*
service.  We are working on a new system that might blow away present day
skeg technology.  But don't hold your breath!

steve


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