Gordon Snapp" <grsnapp_at_charter.net> wrote [comparing the CLC style deck to the Pygmy style deck]: >> I looked at Pygmies. I think they are also excellent boats. I opted for the Chesapeake for a couple of reasons. 1) Their kayaks come with bulkheads. Pygmies don't. The standard method is to use a sea sock. They sell bulkheads as extras, which cost extra money. Also Pygmies have pointed, angular decks. Chesapeakes have a nice arched deck. I don't know why, but the curved deck appeals to me more. >> I've paddled CLC boats a little and admired them a lot. Very sexy-looking. I've built a couple Pygmies, and paddled them extensively. The multi-paneled decks on Pygmies are stronger, I think, because of the chines. Both CLC and Pygmy avoid glass on the underside of their decks. I think that is a weak point. A guy who lives near me somehow crunched a hole through the rear deck of his CLC boat. Wish I knew what he had done, as even without glass on either surface, the plywood is pretty strong. All the Pygmies are glassed on top, and the ones I own seem pretty strong. I've done a lot of self-rescue over the rear deck of my single, and the deck is scratched, but shows no sign of failure. Certainly stronger and more rigid than my FG Eddyline boats over the rear deck. I agree the added cost of bulkheads for a Pygmy is annoying. On one boat, I put 'em in (a double), and am happy with how they turned out. On my small single (Osprey Std), I did not put in bulkheads, because I wanted a lighter boat. I never use a sea sock in it -- just flotation fore and aft. I own a sea sock, but did not like the confining effect. I don't think a sea sock is mandatory with Pygmy boats, although they advocate their use. If I surfed my Osprey Std, I would use it, though. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
How much weight would a mini cell pillar add to a sea kayak? Something similar to what is in a WW kayak? Then again how much support would a pillar add? Why do men love to tweak things so much? Jim et al ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Fereira" <jaf30_at_cornell.edu> > >> 2) as a 250 lb paddler, I'm concerned about the strength of the boats - in > >> particular the deck. I once tried on someones wooden boat - and when I > >> (gently) planted my backside on the deck just behind the coaming in order > >> to slide into the cockpit, there was a distinct creaking/crunching sound > >> from the deck... > >I weigh around 205. I was concerned about this as well. As someone already > >mentioned, there's a strong bulkhead right behind the cockpit which will > >take a lot of weight. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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