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From: Dan <dscanlan_at_shaw.ca>
subject: [Paddlewise] Quatsino, Vancouver Harbour
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:05:00 -0700
Hello

A friend and I are thinking of a trip to Quatsino Marine Park on northern Vancouver Island, starting and finishing at Coal Harbour.

Has anyone paddled those waters?  How is the camping?  Any nasty bits to watch for?

Cheers

Dan
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From: alex <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Quatsino, Vancouver Harbour
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 04:39:24 -0700
> A friend and I are thinking of a trip to Quatsino Marine Park on northern
Vancouver Island, starting and finishing at Coal Harbour.
>
> Has anyone paddled those waters?  How is the camping?  Any nasty bits to
watch for?
>


Coal Harbor is located right in downtown, I don't even know where you will
launch the boat. Paddling under the Lions Gate bridge (separating the harbor
from the ocean) is allowed with engine only - there is  a shipping lane
there, so I really don't recommend Coal Harbor launch. I would better start
from Jerricho Sailing Center in English Bay.  It's farther to the south, but
closer to the open ocean, so distance to the Island is the same. From there
you'll have to cross the staright (about 50 km) between Vancouver mainland
and Vancouver Island; it's boring and not many opportunities to stop.  I
don't remember, on which side of the island this park is.  If it's on the
north-west side, then you'll have to clear the northern tip of the island,
which is comparable to clearing Cape Horn, considering that you're in a
kayak and this is open ocean.  If it's on the north-east side, you may
consider launching your kayak from nearest ferry terminal either on the same
(east) side of the island, that is Nanaimo, Comox or any beach between these
towns, or  from the SunshineCoast - Powell River, Langsdale, Texada Island,
Bowen Island.  Check map and schedule of BC Ferries, you'll get better idea
what I'm talking about.  Normally, those who want to paddle around some
definite seaction of Vancouver Island, take ferry, and then bus or car
straight to this section.  Yeah, there is a bus on the island - along the
east coast and across the island from Nanaimo to Tofino (once or twice a
day).

Alex.


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From: Robert Livingston & Pam Martin <bearboat2_at_attbi.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Quatsino, Vancouver Harbour
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 18:00:27 -0700
There is actually another Coal Harbor in Quatsino Sound itself so if you
launch there you do not have quite as long a paddle.  :)

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From: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
subject: Re:[Paddlewise] Quatsino, Vancouver Harbour
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 18:47:45 -0700
Alex wrote:
<SNIP>>>>>>>Coal Harbor is located right in downtown, I don't even know
where you will
launch the boat. Paddling under the Lions Gate bridge.<<<<<<SNIP>

I didn't know about this Coal Harbor (apparently in Vancouver, BC with the
Lions Gate Bridge). I thought Dan meant paddling from the Coal Harbor that's
near Quatsino Sound (south of Port Hardy) on Vancouver Island. The subject
does say Vancouver Harbor, doesn't it.
The only time I paddled in Quatsino Sound was just a little bit coming into
Winter Harbor from the outer coast. We were "smelling the barn" (or our
shuttle vehicle and the "goodies" store in Winter Harbor) after two weeks
camping on the outside coast so I wasn't paying much attention to the
camping possibilities in those few hours. Just looking at the map I imagine
there gets to be some very strong currents (if not tidal rapids) in Quatsino
Narrows.
Matt Broze
http://www.marinerkayaks.com


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From: Doug Lloyd <dalloyd_at_telus.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Quatsino, Vancouver Harbour
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 01:04:50 -0700
alex stated in reply to:
>>A friend and I are thinking of a trip to Quatsino Marine Park on northern
Vancouver Island, starting and finishing at Coal Harbour. Has anyone paddled
those waters?  How is the camping?  Any nasty bits to watch for?<<

>Coal Harbor is located right in downtown, I don't even know where you will
launch the boat. Paddling under the Lions Gate bridge<

I think Dan meant commencing his trip from Coal Harbour at the end of
Quatsino Sound, Vancouver Island, which is a popular launching spot near the
intersection of Quatsino Sound, Holberg Inlet, and Rupert Inlet.

I've not personally been down that far, as the Mahatta River campsite many
miles west is the farthest inland I have ventured (no open sea, then - I
can't get noooohh, sat - is - faction...).

If one looks at a map of Vancouver Island. Quatsino Sound almost bisects the
top portion of Vancouver Island.

As with all long inlets and destinations thereof, afternoon funnel winds and
tidal currents are some of the safety concerns - next to wildlife. Quatsino
Sound terminates in a two mile long, 500 foot wide, steep cliffed section
called Quatsino Narrows. Tidal streams can run up to 6 to 8 knots, so plan
ahead if you want to head west out of Holberg Inlet, down Quatsino Sound.

You can use local water taxi services in Coal Harbour to get you further
afield faster, or arrange for a pickup back to town. Also, give Pat Kirvin a
call in Port Hardy. He runs kayakers out to Coal Harbour (for a fee of
course). He may also want to give you some free advise if you tell him Doug
"sent you." He has an unsurpassed knowledge of the North Island and those
"secret spots."

http://www.island.net/~odyssey/

Our own Kirby Stevens also has a recreational map you can purchase of the
Quatsino Sound area, which indicates the most likely usable camping areas,
and other points of interest.

http://www.coastalwatersrec.com/

I'd also recommend getting a local map of logging roads of the area:

MacMillan Bloedel Ltd, 925 West Georgia St, Vancouver, BC, V6C 3L2, 604
661-8671

Another good map/visitor guide is the Western Forest Products Ltd brochure.
Info maybe at:

http://www.westernforest.com


Have fun and hope for sun.


Doug Lloyd
Victoria BC

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From: Doug Lloyd <dalloyd_at_telus.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Quatsino, Vancouver Harbour
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:55:33 -0700
Did I say MacMillan Bloedel in my last post? Perhaps Weyerhaeuser would be
the correct company to contact for maps, as some of the other companies are
no longer in BC.

Have you hugged a logger today?

Doug Lloyd

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From: Tim Shuff <tim_at_adventurekayakmag.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Quatsino, Vancouver Harbour
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:01:59 -0400
Quatsino: 

The book Kayak Routes of the Pacific Northwest covers the Quatsino area
pretty well. I'm only familiar with the outer coast of that area but there
are great opportunities for camping on the beaches there if you're
comfortable on the open coast - Grant Bay at the northern mouth of the sound
is gorgeous and has fresh water and I believe there is also a trail to
access it from a sheltered inlet further inland, although it is well
protected from any northerly or westerly swell.  The logging road map
suggestion is also a good one. It is possible to access the outer coast by
logging roads into the inlet just to the south of the mail part of Quatsino
- I can't remember the name of it. Klaskino?

Tim Shuff 
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