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From: Windwalker <windwalker_at_fastmail.fm>
subject: [Paddlewise] Who Got me Started Canoe/Kayaks
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:50:57 +0100
Years ago.. {almost 60+} I got started in Canoes.. given advise
by a olf friend. He was Calvin Rutstrum. He was a true woodsman
and Canoe person. I learned alot those years so long ago.
Trumplines, Duluth packs. Canoes and Outdoors was a lifestyle then.
Phil Cotton Sr got me started in Folbots and Kleppers. Which was more 
seaworthy for Coastal work. All in all I like them for longer trips.
Later when Lee Moyer formed Pacific Water Sports he had me convinced
to try the narrow boats. I did so and loved them for general work.
My first "regular boat was a Sea Otter by PWS.
But still, I loved the Wider Boats for their payload carrying.
I still prefer wood/canvas canoes for the workhorse boats. But love the
Kayaks. Or general "Touring Boats" I should say.
Having made 4 major trips all over 2000 miles in them.
The best way for me to go now, is in the larger boats. Where one can be 
gone a month, if he so desires and not worry of sea conditions  or what to 
leave home, but all within reason...
So many I've met over the years, Angier, Rutstrum, LaBastille, Mason.. All 
had a secret love for Kayaks, though not for the narrow beam ones.
Myself I credit Folbot with getting the average person into Kayaks. 
Although some will not say the craft is a true Yak. Never the less It I 
believe is the father of the Sport.
Although the boon of the whitewater paddlers of the 60,s evolved the sport.
Prior to 1940,s there was little if any interest in Kayaks... they were a 
thing of the northern lands. Not suited to lower states use..
Even now in my view a narrow boat is good for getting someplace fast, from
point A to point B...Seaworthy yes... But for extended trips... no...
Just my thoughts Ive seen over the years....
W




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From: Ann Rougle <arouglep_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Who Got me Started Canoe/Kayaks
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:57:17 -0700
This isn't so much about who got me started as who got me started _safely_.

Several years ago, work-addled, hobbyless, slave to a 24x7 beeper, I decided
to save myself and retire early.  But I knew it would be insanity to retire
without first finding something positive to fill the void that tyrannical
beeper would leave.  So I took up the clarinet.  Well, it didn't take too
long to discover my lack of talent in that arena.  OK, something
different...  Hmmm, I know, I'll buy a kayak!

So I trotted down to the local kayak store and announced my intentions.  It
was an especially warm March in Maryland and I was dying to get out on the
water.  Soft breezes, sun-spangled ripples, (and, oh yeah, 50-degree water),
I couldn't wait!

But wait I did.  For 6 weeks.  The folks at the kayak store gently and
politely let me know that they did not want to sell a kayak to someone of my
ignorance in March!  They convinced me I should try before buying, and yet
they refused to let me demo any of their boats because the water was
dangerously cold.  They suggested I wait until __May__ for the local "demo
days".  This was the first inkling I had that kayaking is not as safe as
playing scales on the clarinet, and it was a lesson I'll never forget.

Now, is this any way to treat customers?  You bet!  I'll be forever grateful
to the folks at that shop for tipping me off to the dangers of paddling in
cold water, even at the risk of losing a sale.  I did eventually buy my
first kayak from them.  And they will always be my first stop when I need
gear.  Or another kayak.  (Although maybe 6 is enough....?  Nah!)

Ann
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From: Windwalker <windwalker_at_fastmail.fm>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Who Got me Started Canoe/Kayaks
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 09:22:47 +0100
On Thursday 24 April 2003 01:57, Ann Rougle wrote:
> This isn't so much about who got me started as who got me started
> _safely_.
>
> Several years ago, work-addled, hobbyless, slave to a 24x7 beeper, I
> decided to save myself and retire early.  But I knew it would be
> insanity to retire without first finding something positive to fill the
> void that tyrannical beeper would leave.  So I took up the clarinet. 
> Well, it didn't take too long to discover my lack of talent in that
> arena.  OK, something different...  Hmmm, I know, I'll buy a kayak!
>
> So I trotted down to the local kayak store and announced my intentions. 
> It was an especially warm March in Maryland and I was dying to get out
> on the water.  Soft breezes, sun-spangled ripples, (and, oh yeah,
> 50-degree water), I couldn't wait!
>
> But wait I did.  For 6 weeks.  The folks at the kayak store gently and
> politely let me know that they did not want to sell a kayak to someone
> of my ignorance in March!  They convinced me I should try before buying,
> and yet they refused to let me demo any of their boats because the water
> was dangerously cold.  They suggested I wait until __May__ for the local
> "demo days".  This was the first inkling I had that kayaking is not as
> safe as playing scales on the clarinet, and it was a lesson I'll never
> forget.
>
> Now, is this any way to treat customers?  You bet!  I'll be forever
> grateful to the folks at that shop for tipping me off to the dangers of
> paddling in cold water, even at the risk of losing a sale.  I did
> eventually buy my first kayak from them.  And they will always be my
> first stop when I need gear.  Or another kayak.  (Although maybe 6 is
> enough....?  Nah!)
>
> Ann


Great to see you over here Ann. You are on our Backwoods_Epitaph
group.

Do you get out much since your retire, as far as paddleing?
Sam
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