Have just bought two of them (10 liter regular, not Dromlite). Great thing, very compact. Unfortunately :-) I decided to check them up for leaks, and here it was, fly in my ointment. Both of them leak through the thread of smaller cap (big-mouth cap was fine). One droplet every 2-3 seconds. I leaned full bags vertical against the wall so that cap was in the lower end - didn't sit on them or anything. Was it my bad luck, or just nobody paid attention before? Alex. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Alex, I have two MSR dromedary water bags, and both of the caps leaked on them too. The clerks are REI were shocked when I told them. I bought some MSR replacement caps, and they leaked too. To resolve the problem, I bought caps from Nalgene. For storage on a trip, I use the plain Nalgene caps, and for drinking, I use a Nalgene cap that comes with a drinking tube system. The MSR bag with the Nalgene caps turns out to be the perfect combination. Duane Strosaker Southern California > Have just bought two of them (10 liter regular, not Dromlite). Great thing, > very compact. Unfortunately :-) I decided to check them up for leaks, and > here it was, fly in my ointment. Both of them leak through the thread of > smaller cap (big-mouth cap was fine). One droplet every 2-3 seconds. I leaned > full bags vertical against the wall so that cap was in the lower end - didn't > sit on them or anything. Was it my bad luck, or just nobody paid attention > before? > Alex. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
2 of my 6 D-bags leak. I found plastic water bottle lids that work and don't leak. Generic water bottles from 7-11. go figure? I like the Nalgene option. thanks D! steve http://mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Thanks, Duane and Steve. Looks like it's useless to try and replace MSR bags - chances are that caps on new ones would leak too. May be will do that once (just to give them a feedback), and then will get caps from Nalgene bottles. Alex. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Moderator's Note: Content unaltered. Excessive quoting (including headers/footers/sig lines/extraneous text from previous posts, etc.) have been removed. Please edit quoted material in addition to removing header/trailers when replying to posts.] You might want to try a little of the Teflon pipe tape on the threads Most people think of it as just a substitute for lubricant on the threads but I understand that it also helps in making a watertight seal. Mark J. Arnold > 2 of my 6 D-bags leak. I found plastic water bottle lids that work and > don't leak. Generic water bottles from 7-11. go figure? > > I like the Nalgene option. thanks D! > > steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Alex wrote: >> Have just bought two of them (10 liter regular, not Dromlite). Great thing, very compact. Unfortunately :-) I decided to check them up for leaks, and here it was, fly in my ointment. Both of them leak through the thread of smaller cap (big-mouth cap was fine). One droplet every 2-3 seconds. I leaned full bags vertical against the wall so that cap was in the lower end - didn't sit on them or anything. Was it my bad luck, or just nobody paid attention before? >> I own four of the things, and over 6-8 years of use, have never had this problem (I use the small caps with flip-up lids). Also never had a leak with the big caps. Durn hard to get off at the end of a trip, though, after the bags have sat around for a few days, dry. I suspect it is a bad batch of lids. I've had good luck with the warranty on these things. Back in 1996 or so they made a poor choice of antifungal in the liner that made the water nasty, and replaced all four then at no cost. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Have no problem with mine either. Have had a pair of the std 10 liter dromedaries for 3 years and no leaks. They better not, they cost a lot of money! Rob G *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
<< I decided to check them up for leaks, and here it was, fly in my ointment. Both of them leak through the thread of smaller cap (big-mouth cap was fine). One droplet every 2-3 seconds. I leaned full bags vertical against the wall so that cap was in the lower end - didn't sit on them or anything. Was it my bad luck, or just nobody paid attention before?>> Great water bags, but you're right about the site of leaks. Fortunately, most do not leak, and the ones that do are easily corrected with a new cap. Have never figured out how to repair a cap once it starts to leak... douglas in sf *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:28:18 -0800 From: "alex" <al.m_at_3web.net> Subject: [Paddlewise] MSR Dromedary water bags Have just bought two of them (10 liter regular, not Dromlite). Great thing, very compact. Unfortunately :-) I decided to check them up for leaks, and here it was, fly in my ointment. Both of them leak through the thread of smaller cap (big-mouth cap was fine). One droplet every 2-3 seconds. I leaned full bags vertical against the wall so that cap was in the lower end - didn't sit on them or anything. Was it my bad luck, or just nobody paid attention before? Alex. Hi, I have several of the 10 liter bags. The caps with a smaller cap in the center didn't leak, but are not handy to use. MSR makes a faucet cap acessory that works well. Neither the bags nor this cap have leaked in over 1000 miles of Baja paddling where water is scarce, not to mention other trips and bouncing around in the back of a pickup truck. Removing a cap to pour can spill water. The faucet cap can be hooked up to a shower hose or a drinking tube as a bonus. The bags are a bit pricey, and should just come with the faucet caps. Jay *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> but are not handy to use. MSR makes a faucet cap acessory that works well. > Neither the bags nor this cap have leaked in over 1000 miles of Baja > paddling where water is scarce, not to mention other trips and bouncing > around in the back of a pickup truck. Removing a cap to pour can spill > water. The faucet cap can be hooked up to a shower hose or a drinking > tube as a bonus. Thanks, yes, I thought of faucet cap. ($5, I think). The faucet may open occasionally when it catches something in the boat (and my F-craft is going to be pretty darn cramped in the trip). Same danger exists with MSR standard spigot built in the small cap. While spigot can be wrapped with electric tape over and around, faucet I don't know how to lock, (don't remember - is it on small cap again - then I may try and tape it, and if not - then makes no sense to lock it). I've spotted a water bottle with wide cap ($4 empty) that fits Drom bag and opens like any water bottle - pulling up the sleeve in the center of that wide cap. Same danger that it may open and lose water when you don't see it. Very upseting, and very odd - my no-name few years old water bottle doesn't leak, and $25 Drom bags both leak (replaced one that leaked more than another - same result). Alex. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 12/16/2003 12:54:51 AM Central Standard Time, al.m_at_3web.net writes: > Same danger that it > may open and lose water when you don't see it. Very upseting, and very odd - > my no-name few years old water bottle doesn't leak, and $25 Drom bags both > leak (replaced one that leaked more than another - same result). > Add a strip of duct tape to the caps for another margin of protection. Rob G *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Probem solved! After some head scratching and reading all recommendations once again, I've realized that I need a tape to tighten the thread on the small cap. Don't know where to get a teflon tape; electric tape doesn't work - not soft enough. Luckily I saved a roll of hemp rope (not sure whether it was jute, but considering its origin it should be hemp). Ropes are usually too thick, thinner fibers should be unlayed (1/16" or less) and wrapped around in thread grooves. Absolutely watertight, zero cost, and I think something of that kind can be found ashore if needed (moss on the trees may be). I recall such ropes were used by plumbers for thread-locking decades ago, before invention of synthetic thread-locking tapes (didn't check them). The only drawback is that pouring a water is now through the spigot - a little bit slow, but acceptable. May be will try one of those faucet caps later. Add a strip of duct tape to the caps for another margin of protection. Rob G *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Thanks, Bob and Tony. I think I've seen it - just didn't know it was teflon. Hemp ropes still hold, though :-) > Any hardware store has teflon tape -- it's a standard plumbing supply > item. The tape comes in a little roll just like J&J adhesive tape. You > apply it by wrapping it tightly around the thread of the water bag -- once > around completely is probably enough. Break the tape by pulling it tight > until it breaks. Then, just smooth the broken end into the thread of the > bag. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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