Lucky you with the waterproof garmin 60C. I have a Garmin Map 12 and it does not like water. First I learned to seal the socket for the external antenna. Then I had problems with condensation inside the screen when the gps was used on top of the spraydeck in sunshine. And last but not least, the batteries could not stay dry when there was an occational splash of water on the spraydeck so the gps stopped working. I never dared to submerge it. Garmin technical support says (quote): "The unit is designed to IPX7, but this does not include the battery compartment. The unit sounds as if it is functioning to specification. the only thing I can suggest you do to improve matter is to obtain a waterproof bag for your unit." There is IPX7 and there is Garmin IPX7. Jens Viggo Moesmand Denmark *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I also have the 12 MAP and found that by placing the unit in a baggie, it was fine. The main problem I found was that with the 12 on the deck, it would get hot, then a roll would cool it, creating a vacuum and suck in a few drops of water. I always rinsed out the battery compartment and the antenna jack after a salt water trip. Mine did go back to Garmin for a free replacement due to corrosion of the antenna jack. The 60 seems to be designed like the 76MAP. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> -----Original Message----- > From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net > [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net] On Behalf Of Jens > Viggo Moesmand > Garmin technical support says (quote): > > > > "The unit is designed to IPX7, but this does not include the > battery compartment. The unit sounds as if it is functioning > to specification. the only thing I can suggest you do to > improve matter is to obtain a waterproof bag for your unit." > My original Garmin Etrex Legend, started to give me problems when it was about 6 months old. Garmin repaired the screen, replaced the "click stick" and did a few other things that were all related to water contact. They also told me that although the unit was submersible, the battery compartment was not. When the unit failed the 2nd time, they told me it was out of warranty and they could repair it for $125. I opted to buy a GPSMap76 and I now keep it in a dry bag and tethered to the pocket of my PFD that it lives in. You just have to remember to not store it inside the dry bag. Even though the unit is supposed to float and be submersible, I no longer trust their statements about water. My 2 cents, Steve Holtzman Southern CA. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Steve, I have the 76S and find it a great unit and its taken a couple of dunkings without pausing. I've owned several Garmin units and it sounds like you did get a lemon. Doug Jensen *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I have the 76S and find it a great unit and its taken a couple of > dunkings without pausing. I've owned several Garmin units and it > sounds like you did get a lemon. > > Doug Jensen They made a number of lemons then. I have a 76S as well, and had it in my PFD pocket (powered on) and took a spill landing in one-footer's. Wasn't in deep or long, but the batts were shorted out and were dead 30 mins later. Lucky the unit wasn't flooded, so new batts and all was OK. I've taken to coating the battery compartment mating edges with silicone grease (dive shops have it) and that has helped. It won't take pressure tho. I'm about to cut up an innertube soon. C *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I'm on my second 76. Never fully submerged the first one, just well splashed. It got water inside and died. They sent me a new one and said that it shouldn't do that, but after I had an Etrex die inside a drybag, I'm not very confident. The problems seem to stem from being out in the sun then getting doused with cold water. I doubt the IPX7 standard tests for this kind of situation. It is one thing to put the unit under water for a while in a lab, and another to cook it for a while in the sun then dunk it in chilly water. On Feb 6, 2004, at 5:08 PM, B. Douglas Jensen wrote: > Steve, > > I have the 76S and find it a great unit and its taken a couple of > dunkings without pausing. I've owned several Garmin units and it > sounds like you did get a lemon. > > Doug Jensen > Nick Schade Guillemot Kayaks 824 Thompson St Glastonbury, CT 06033 USA Ph/Fx: (860) 659-8847 http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug, The map76 is that I have is not a lemon. The Etrex Legend I used to have was. Garmin suggested I keep this unit in a dry bag, and several friends have had problems with the same unit and saltwater when they didn't use a bag. IMHO, the battery compartment is a weak link in their submersability. Other than that, the unit is great. Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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