"The fastest sea kayak we have in Australia is something called a Mirage" Hey, the fastest sea kayak we have in Australia is anything paddled by Andrew McAuley! Cheers, PT *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> The fastest title always goes to the last liar. Yes, paddlers estimates of wind strength and wave size vary according to the purpose of the storytelling. :-) However, I should say that Andrew McAuley is genuinely a very fast paddler, having won a Hawkesbury 100+ km race, and paddled solo across Bass Strait in 36 hours or so, 220 kms, a ground breaking (wave-making?) effort. I really meant that he is an exceptionally fast and competent sea kayaker. Cheers, PT *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Peter Treby wrote, >However, I should say that Andrew McAuley is >genuinely a very fast paddler, having won a >Hawkesbury 100+ km race, and paddled solo >across Bass Strait in 36 hours or so, 220 kms, G'Day PeterT and All, A truly brave effort and not only that but he can roll a kayak while asleep! At one stage Andrew nodded off during the Bass Strait crossing tipped over and managed to roll up! All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
That's odd, the fastest kayak in America is paddled at the local bar on snowy winter evenings after a couple of pints. You went how fast, through waves how tall, against how strong of a current, and into hurricane winds, for how many days without sleep or food, with how much stuff on your rear deck! The fastest title always goes to the last liar. Robert ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- When logic and proportion Have fallen softly dead, Remember what the dormouse said: "Feed your head. Feed your head. Feed your head" -WhiteRabbit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Treby" <ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au> To: <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 4:43 PM Subject: [Paddlewise] Viscosity vs Verbosity > "The fastest sea kayak we have in Australia is something called a Mirage" > Hey, the fastest sea kayak we have in Australia is anything paddled by > Andrew McAuley! > Cheers, PT *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Tue, 25 May 2004 07:43:43 +1000, "Peter Treby" <ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au> said: > "The fastest sea kayak we have in Australia is something called a Mirage" Cool. Now I just need to figure out why I don't need my regular boat anymore and why I absolutely must have an australian kayak shipped to the US. http://www.mirageseakayaks.com.au/ Mirage 22 - weight 18kg/39lb beam 45cm/18" length 6.7m/22ft Kirk Embracing the antithesis of the Doug Lloyd 100 pound nordkapp philosphies. -- Kirk Olsen kork4_at_cluemail.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Kirk wrote >Cool. Now I just need to figure out why I don't >need my regular boat anymore G'day Kirk and all, You used to be able to buy them in America - don't know if you still can. Andrew MacAuley I think paddles a Raider X which is as fast as a Mirage but is reputed to be a bit tippier. I don't know how the Mirage or Raider X would stack up against US or UK boats. I'll stick to my Pittarak coz its fun. All the best, PeterO (who has no commercial interest in boat manufacturers) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Kirk said..."why I absolutely must have an australian kayak shipped to the US. http://www.mirageseakayaks.com.au/ Mirage 22 - weight 18kg/39lb beam 45cm/18" length 6.7m/22ft Embracing the antithesis of the Doug Lloyd 100 pound nordkapp philosphies." Funnily enough, I have a friend who has been agonising over a first boat purchase for a few months now, and has paddled and tried almost everything available worth considering, including Mirage 580 and 530. He has finally settled on a Nordkapp Jubilee over all other boats. I am very keen to jump into it and have a paddle. Weighs 25 kg, with skeg, and will be marginally more when it is fitted out to seaworthy standard, with a foot pump. The Nordkapp is not obsolete yet. Cheers, PT *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Kirk posted (snip): >Cool. Now I just need to figure out why I don't need my regular boat anymore and why I absolutely must have an australian kayak shipped to the US.< Because, how many people can claim their kayak can handle confused seas in tidal currents/large ocean swells with strong winds AND calm water touring as well (see advert)? http://www.mirageseakayaks.com.au/ And Kirk added: >Embracing the antithesis of the Doug Lloyd 100 pound nordkapp philosphies.< Ah yes, I know you like your disposable kayaks, Kirk. :-) Doug Lloyd Victoria BC *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Wed, 26 May 2004 20:54:17 -0700, "Doug Lloyd" <dalloyd_at_telus.net> said: > >Embracing the antithesis of the Doug Lloyd 100 pound nordkapp philosphies.< > > Ah yes, I know you like your disposable kayaks, Kirk. :-) For those of us on some stretches of the north american east coast, our rough water is your harbor chop. We don't _need_ a bullet proof hull. Besides, I like carrying my boats with one hand ;-) It sure makes getting it from the car to and from the water easy. Although if the boat is sitting on the beach and the wind picks up you might have to go chase the boat ;-) Kirk -- Kirk Olsen kork4_at_cluemail.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Kirk had posted: >>>Embracing the antithesis of the Doug Lloyd 100 pound nordkapp philosphies.<<< I replied: >> Ah yes, I know you like your disposable kayaks, Kirk. :-)<< He then replied (snip): >For those of us on some stretches of the north american east coast, our rough water is your harbor chop.< >We don't _need_ a bullet proof hull.< Well, I don't absolutely _need_ bullet proof either, but as part of my play philosophies, I do like to practice seal landings. On club trips out around the Victoria breakwater, I've been know to ride the waves up onto the lower breakwater blocks just for fun. Though, one of those new-generation cruise ships ran into the breakwater the other week during gusty winds while attempting docking. It now needs to be pulled out of the water for repairs - and that's one heck of a big vessel. I just flip my boat over at home and add a little more epoxy, which isn't required very often. I also like to land on remote islands or get off the water where there are no normal landings, when bad conditions get worse and I'm over my head as it were. Knowing your hull, fully expedition loaded, can take a beating gives you more options and more confidence. I would like to get a super-light paddling boat one day for conditioning. I was offered free instruction and use of a flat water Olympic K-1, but just didn't have the time to coordinate with the owner. The local Speedster paddlers (surf-ski kayaks) "industry" is doing very well in Victoria, though it is sad to see Current Designs pulling up shop and heading State-side next month. That's a major loss to the Victoria economy, including the jobs that will be gone. The sexiest boat I've seen is a single outrigger (OC-1). http://www.outriggerconnectionworldwide.com/ Requires a canoe paddle, yes I know, but a nice speed-freak boat indeed. At the local inner-harbour music concert last year (where thousands of small vessels fill the inner harbour for a summer's night of classical music by a full orchestra), the guy in the Stingray was surrounded by swooning women. You used to need a Corvette Stingray in the old days to catch that kind of attention. Doug Lloyd Victoria BC *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 07:10:25 -0700, "Doug Lloyd" <dalloyd_at_telus.net> said: > Kirk had posted: > >>>Embracing the antithesis of the Doug Lloyd 100 pound nordkapp > philosphies.<<< > > >We don't _need_ a bullet proof hull.< > > Well, I don't absolutely _need_ bullet proof either, but as part of my play > philosophies, I do like to practice seal landings. On club trips out around > the Victoria breakwater, I've been know to ride the waves up onto the > lower breakwater blocks just for fun. There are definite advantages to paddling a tank. I'm the wimp launching the boat in a foot of water and never putting the boat on land unless I'm carrying it. My paddling fun is normally aerobic instead of adrenalin based. > I would like to get a super-light paddling boat one day for conditioning. I > was offered free instruction and use of a flat water Olympic K-1, but just > didn't have the time to coordinate with the owner. The local Speedster > paddlers (surf-ski kayaks) "industry" is doing very well in Victoria, though > it is sad to see Current Designs pulling up shop and heading State-side next > month. That's a major loss to the Victoria economy, including the jobs that > will be gone. The sexiest boat I've seen is a single outrigger (OC-1). > > http://www.outriggerconnectionworldwide.com/ Our local outrigger canoe crew has 3 stingrays, a stingray duo (a tandem), a viper duo and a brand new OutriggerConnection fusion. I haven't seen the fusion yet but was told, by a StingRay owner, that the fusion is beautiful - a work of art (http://www.y2kanu.com/images/fusion/DSC00118.JPG). There are more pictures at that site, if you drop the DSC00118.jpg off the path, then view each .jpg. OutriggerConnection added a deep bucket seat for the fusion, the new seat fits the stingray and drastically improves the comfort and control. I found the stingray uncomfortable after an hour or so. I did a 20 mile race on a StringRay and had to stretch out at one point - having the amas was a definite plus when stretching on the water. Unfortunately we've had trouble with the CurrentDesign built OutriggerConnection boat. It's ready for it's third ama - the first two amas have had contruction issues (separated seams) and needed to be replaced. > Requires a canoe paddle, yes I know, but a nice speed-freak boat indeed. As a canoeist at heart there's absolutely nothing wrong with using a single blade, in fact, I prefer it ;-) The outrigger canoes surf wonderfully. Stability is funky. They are very stable leaning left, with the equivalent of a 40 inch/1 meter beam, and tippy leaning right. If you aren't surfing, a solo outrigger canoe is about the same speed as a fast sea kayak, roughly the same as a seda glider. > At the local inner-harbour music concert last year (where thousands of small > vessels fill the inner harbour for a summer's night of classical music by > a full orchestra), the guy in the Stingray was surrounded by swooning > women. You used to need a Corvette Stingray in the old days to catch that kind > of attention. -- Kirk Olsen kork4_at_cluemail.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Robert posted: >That's odd, the fastest kayak in America is paddled at the local bar on snowy winter evenings after a couple of pints. You went how fast, through waves how tall, against how strong of a current, and into hurricane winds, for how many days without sleep or food, with how much stuff on your rear deck! The fastest title always goes to the last liar.< Some of us are out paddling on snowy winter evenings, but you have to take my word for it. :-) Doug Lloyd Victoria BC *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Actually paddling on snowy winter evenings is quite enjoyable and peaceful. The water viscosity is somewhere between that of fresh water and salt water, though the boat handling is closer to salt water than fresh. ; ) Robert ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- When logic and proportion Have fallen softly dead, Remember what the dormouse said: "Feed your head. Feed your head. Feed your head" -WhiteRabbit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lloyd" <dalloyd_at_telus.net> Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Viscosity vs Verbosity > > Robert posted: > >That's odd, the fastest kayak in America is paddled at the local bar on > snowy winter evenings after a couple of pints. You went how fast, through > waves how tall, against how strong of a current, and into hurricane winds, > for how many days without sleep or food, with how much stuff on your rear > deck! The fastest title always goes to the last liar.< > > Some of us are out paddling on snowy winter evenings, but you have to take > my word for it. :-) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Yes, that darn freshwater is all over the place these days from snow, rain, rivers - or worse. I won't want to paddle North Atlantic waters soon, due to climate change and the potential for the Greenland ice cap to melt which, combined with higher rainfall at those latitudes could disrupt the Gulfstream significantly by adding freshwater and decreasing sea water salinity. What's a poor sea kayaker to do? Doug Lloyd Victoria BC > Actually paddling on snowy winter evenings is quite enjoyable and peaceful. > The water viscosity is somewhere between that of fresh water and salt water, > though the boat handling is closer to salt water than fresh. ; ) > Robert *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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