Ken SchroeterHi, Paddlewisers, Has anyone tried Krylon Fusion paint on their polyethylene kayak? I have an Old Town Millennium 160 made of rather heavy polyethylene, which over 5 years of heavy use has taken something of a beating. I am researching a bit of refinishing. I plan to lightly sand, then using a heat gun (less than 500 degrees), gently melt down the more "hairy" areas, not fretting too much about a couple of deeper gouges. Then I plan to apply a couple layers of gloss (satin) Krylon Fusion (prep in accordance with maker) over a couple days, then let it cure for 7-10 days. What little I can find suggests that the old adage of "you can't paint polyethylene" was specifically tackled by Krylon with this new paint, and that this should work rather well. Most of the problems I found on the web seemed related to people not prepping the surface in accordance with manufacturers instructions (you do need to clean and wipe, etc, despite it being a no prep paint). Any thoughts? Ken Schroeter (Not associated in any way with Krylon, Old Town, international extremist groups...) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 04:45 PM 6/13/2004 -0400, Ken Schroeter wrote: >SNIP >I plan to lightly sand, then using a heat gun (less than 500 degrees), >gently melt down the more "hairy" areas, not fretting too >much about a couple of deeper gouges. Then I plan to apply a couple layers >of gloss (satin) Krylon Fusion (prep in accordance with maker) over a couple >days, then let it cure for 7-10 days. Ken, I have no info on the Krylon paint, but I'd like to add a comment on your proposed prep. For some of the raised areas that you would normally sand, you might try a sharp cabinet scraper. This is used in wood working all the time and leaves the surface smoother than most sanding (at least the coarser grits). See any wodworking text for the technique. Good luck, Bill Leonhardt *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Cool if it works! I have a couple of plastic boats that I've been wanting to camouflage. Definitely publish your results and anything you learn. Steve Brown -----Original Message----- ....... What little I can find suggests that the old adage of "you can't paint polyethylene" was specifically tackled by Krylon with this new paint, and that this should work rather well. Most of the problems I found on the web seemed related to people not prepping the surface in accordance with manufacturers instructions (you do need to clean and wipe, etc, despite it being a no prep paint). Any thoughts? Ken Schroeter *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
All I know about Krylon Fusion paint is that Aaron of Aaron's Rain Barrels recommends it for painting plastic rain barrels. However, my wife and I opted for an unpainted barrel. Though it might adhere well, I am sure it is still susceptible to scratches. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 11:40 AM 6/14/2004 -0500, cholst_at_bitstream.net wrote: >All I know about Krylon Fusion paint is that Aaron of Aaron's Rain Barrels >recommends it for painting plastic rain barrels. However, my wife and I opted >for an unpainted barrel. Though it might adhere well, I am sure it is still >susceptible to scratches. There is an article in a recent Consumer Reports about Krylon Fusion and a paint for plastic from another company (can't remember which). I just glanced at the article a few minutes ago and they had a favorable rating for both products and specifically mentioned extra care in preparation for painting polypropylene plastic (sanding). *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Has anyone tried Krylon Fusion paint on their polyethylene kayak? > Ken, I'd stay away from painting polyethylene. I don't know of much that will stick to it. You may also compromise the plastic by doing it through a chemical reaction with the solvents in the paint. Your best bet would be the simplest: buy a bag of disposable razors and shave the hull. A razor will remove all the flash & fuzz & get you only as deep as you have to go. Then, coat the boat with 303, and it'll look a lot better. Heat guns & chemicals can have side effects that you don't want. Wayne Wayne Smith wsmith16_at_charter.net Check out my website! http://webpages.charter.net/wsmith16/home.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Ken Wrote : >>>Has anyone tried Krylon Fusion paint on their polyethylene kayak? Ken, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion a couple weeks ago at "Michaels" and followed the "new" surface prep directions while applying it to High Density Polyethylene ( HDPE) I let it set-up for nearly two weeks, and tested it tonight after seeing your post. Actually, I had forgotten about it until now. Krylon Test - http://yostwerks.com/Krylon.jpg<http://yostwerks.com/Krylon.jpg> I was able to easily scrape it off the plastic using light fingernail pressure. The HDPE I used is a scrap piece left over from making folding kayak snap-on cross sections. I was hoping to try different color cross sections instead of the white HDPE that I always use. I don't believe it's durable enough for my application ( Inside of hull). Perhaps sanding first could have allowed for great adhesion, but I'd rather have a smooth white surface rather than rough it up. Besides, Krylon says no sanding is required. Good Luck, Tom Folding Kayak Builders Manual - http://yostwerks.com/MainMenu.html<http://yostwerks.com/MainMenu.html> *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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