I know most of the people on this list seem to eschew rudders, but I have a question and a comment. Is there an inexpensive product for lubricating the cable through the cable tubes. The local kayak store had something that looked appropriate, but wanted $9 for about 4oz. I also wanted to say I was impressed with the service I got from Seal Line about my broken rudder. I e-mailed them because the toe rail on my kayak was breaking. I've read that others have had the same problem. They e-mailed me back within an hour saying they were aware of the problem and had changed the rails from plastic to aluminium and would send me a free replacement 'toot sweet'! Well he didn't actually use the words 'toot sweet', but at least I got that impression. He even tried to schmooze me by saying it usually only happens to the racing crowd. Now I have new rails for the rudder I hardly ever use! Mark Sanders *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> The local kayak store had something that > looked appropriate, but wanted $9 for about 4oz. I also Bioshield T-9 works well. I've used it on the metal parts of my folder for the last few years. You might find it cheaper in a bike shop. I'd avoid anything that looks like a grease. Woody ================================== = Woody's Kayak Trip Reports = = http://www.kayaktrips.net/ = ================================== *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
--- Mark Sanders <sandmarks_at_comcast.net> wrote: > it usually only happens > to the racing crowd. Now I have new rails for the > rudder I hardly ever use! That's interesting. I installed a Smart Trak rudder system on my boat last year ( it was purchased the year before) and I (also) don't use it a lot. This April it broke where it is attached to the adjustment strip (leaving me with no useable foot brace on that side). And, yes, I was asked if I was a racer. They sent me a pair of new replacement rails so I now have a spare just in case the other old one breaks. I was disappointed that the product wasn't up to the quality I expected but I was delighted that the replacement arrived quickly with no charges and no questions. It's nice to know that it is, in fact, better quality than the old. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 20 Jul 2004 at 18:44, Mark Sanders wrote: > I know most of the people on this list seem to eschew rudders, but I > have a question and a comment. Is there an inexpensive product for > lubricating the cable through the cable tubes. The local kayak store > had something that looked appropriate, but wanted $9 for about 4oz. Silicone grease comes to mind. Waterproof and it won't affect any plastics. I'd recommend lubing the cable lightly and then running the lubed cable into the tubes. Bike shops might have something for lubing brake and shifter cables - that would be worth a look. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
How does it do in salt water and sand? Does it pick up sand? <<Silicone grease comes to mind. Waterproof and it won't affect any plastics. >> Joan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Tough job for a lubricant. I suspect that if the expensive stuff does the job, it's worth it. You might try a couple shots of silicone spray, followed by vigorous motion of the cable. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sanders" <sandmarks_at_comcast.net> > I know most of the people on this list seem to eschew rudders, but I have a > question and a comment. Is there an inexpensive product for lubricating the > cable through the cable tubes. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Joan wrote: > > How does it do in salt water and sand? Does it pick up sand? > <<Silicone grease comes to mind. Waterproof and it won't affect any > plastics. >> > > Joan This is one of those situations where you have to make your own choice depending on where you paddle and how much time you will put into working on your boat. ANY grease will make some sand stick. If there is too much grease it gets worse. My experience with white lithium grease in a thin film is that I don't get any trouble from salt or sand in the water. If I stuff them into dry sand then I have a mess to clean up. If you are frequently in dry sand, especially fine sugar sand then you might want to go to a wax based lube. To work well it needs to be a wax that is DRY in use. I sometimes use standard auto paste wax (Turtle Wax) but this works best when I take the inner cables out, clean and dry them and then wax them, letting the wax dry before reassembly. While the inners are out I flush and dry the housings with water followed by compressed air. This is a lot more work so I only do it if I am having trouble or am going to a place where I expect trouble. michael *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
White lithium grease. Available in tubes or spray cans. Use just enough to make a thin film. Extra just makes a mess. This is also good to use on electrical contacts outdoors to prevent corrosion. michael Mark Sanders wrote: > > I know most of the people on this list seem to eschew rudders, but I have a > question and a comment. Is there an inexpensive product for lubricating the > cable through the cable tubes. The local kayak store had something that > looked appropriate, but wanted $9 for about 4oz. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Lubricating rudder cables: You can buy a lube injector at bicycle stores sold under various names- "Pedro's" is one- that's perfect for filling the tubes and keeping water out. They'll have good waterproof lubes, too. -- mike -------------------------- Michael Edelman http://foldingkayaks.org http://findascope.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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