Matt, I'm leaving the Nadgee vs Max issue, it is not progressing. An answer by me to most of your last post would just be repetition. Let me relinquish the Badger crown to you. Foot pumps: >>>We need to define "small fraction" here. To me that means 1/4 or less. How much slower is your foot pump? What brand or type is it? Could you describe it? What hand pump are you using? What are its dimensions and rated output? Sea kayaker found the gray and red Beckson hand pump (with the roughly 2" by 18" tube) put out about 4 times the output of the deck mounted Henderson "Chimp" hand pump once widely used on British sea kayaks..<<< I will conduct some tests and let you know, and post on Paddlewise. But the capacity of the pump is only part of a rescue/recovery. I think the overall time to, say, re-enter and roll, and start paddling, is less with a foot pump, as the pumping can continue while under way. The time that matters is time taken to get paddling again after a capsize. Deck fittings "I was referring to which specific eyelets on Mariner kayaks were the ones that you felt you might bark your knuckles on." Wasn't saying you have any badly sited fittings. I haven't seen a Mariner and don't know how rounded the fittings are, my comments were general, hard raised fittings might cause a knock wherever they are compared to recessed fittings. I don't think it is a desperate issue. The sharp turns of the boat are themselves a risk: check this: http://www.pioneerlocal.com/cgi-bin/ppo-story/localnews/current/gl/08-12-04-359464.html "For example; today I looked at a Romany Explorer on a car in the parking lot. It had little plastic recessed fittings with a metal bar across them embedded into the deck in many places. The hard melted end knots from the cords stuck out right in the area where ones hands cross the deck during on nearly every kayak stroke." I'd modify that for sure. Looking at the deck plan http://www.seakayakgeorgia.com/ndk.htm I would worry about catching my hand somewhere while paddling. Kayak history "As an amateur student of modern kayak history though, I don't mind collecting these rumors, and recording them in my personal notes as such." You might be well placed to write a history of sea kayaking in your retirement. Cheers, PT. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Thu Aug 12 2004 - 23:17:45 PDT
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