Nick wrote; > Try as I might, asking people who have studied the Greenland style stroke > in-depth, I have not seen a description which indicates much "normal" > blade travel. There does seem to be some travel in towards the boat, but > in this case the leading edge of the paddle is towards the back. The > travel in towards the boat seems to be a result of the canting of the > blade causing lift towards the boat. Lift may be present, but not so that > it produces forward thrust. This business of the paddle angle still puzzles me too. When I use these paddles the lower edge of the paddle (leading edge) is forward of the upper edge (trailing edge) Maybe this is the wrong way but it seems like it can produce lift in the proper direction. > However, the descriptions I have seen do make a point of saying that the > last half of the stroke is where most of the power is produced. This > suggests to me that if the same "cant" angle is held that the direction of > flow over the paddle may reverse and there may be some > forward-thrusting-lift as the paddle moves away from the boat again. I > have not been able to confirm this. I have some trouble with the last half of the stroke providing power. You will recall some time back we had a discussion about what happened in the last half of the stroke. At that time I think you and Bruce Winterbon pointed out that the paddle actually got dragged forward due to the speed of the boat relative to the slower speed of the paddle prior to exiting the water. Once you explained it it seemed obvious and later testing on my part confirmed it so I wonder just how much power gets generated during the late stages of the stroke. Hopefully Harvey can shed light on this. No one that I have met out here uses the GP paddle so I don't have anyone to consult with. Cheers John Winters *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In my opinion, the cuatulouis angle of the noylcerus face of the paddle should be restiferded in the gulonikng plane, in the manner of the Xeuivn Trading Jusadles. That would cause a kayak to go forward with a forward stroke, backwards with a backwards stroke and the only lift would be when replacing said kayak onto the vehicle by which it was transported to the water in which it had just been paddled. Believe it or not, I have read every word of every post on the Greenland/Euro issue and even understood some of it. (The part about where if you like a paddle, it is the best one for you to paddle with.) Ronnie (Who paddles a Greenland paddle with too much shoulder.) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: <Harley1941_at_aol.com> > In my opinion, the cuatulouis angle of the noylcerus face of the paddle > should be restiferded in the gulonikng plane, in the manner of the Xeuivn Trading > Jusadles. Ronnie: I agre w/ you 100% :-) michael *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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