Has anyone paddled in Belize - specifically Glovers Atoll? http://www.glovers.com.bz/ looks interesting? Phares Heindl *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Glover's reef would be a good place to paddle. There is a tour outfit Slick Rock has paddling available at Glover's reef. Perhaps you are inquiring about them? http://www.slickrock.com/longcaye.htm I have inquired on several occasions about shipping my own kayak to Belize but haven't found anything that is reasonable. One shipper wanted $1,000 each way. Anyone have any recommendations for reliable, reasonable international shipping? Thanks Robert Cline Houston TX On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:02:00 -0400, "Paddle" <Paddle_at_Heindllaw.com> said: > Has anyone paddled in Belize - specifically Glovers Atoll? > > http://www.glovers.com.bz/ looks interesting? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Moderator's Note: Content unaltered. Excessive quoting (including headers/footers/sig lines/extraneous text from previous posts, etc.) have been removed. Please edit quoted material in addition to removing header/trailers when replying to posts.] Why would you want to ship a kayak rather than rent considering the expense? I saw rentals listed on Caye Caulker for $60/day - but even at that price the boats are probably entry level plastic or sit on tops. I have seen slickrocks video but being adventurous and cheap, I would prefer to set my own itinerary. The outfitter below, although mainly a dive location, rents camp sites, rooms, huts over the water, provides meals and rents kayaks. The poly wilderness systems for $125/week does not look to bad. http://www.glovers.com.bz/glover2.html They are stable, unsinkable and easy to climb back in after snorkeling. $150/week. Touring single Dagger, Chinook or Wilderness Systems with rudder, skirt and hatch seals,are faster and great for long distance $125 /week. Doubles with rudder, skirt and hatch seals $175/week. Kayaks less than week, $20 per person for three hours. If you want dry bags bring your own. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert C Cline" <rccline_at_fastmail.fm> Subject: [Paddlewise] Belize - Glovers Atoll/ International Shipping > Glover's reef would be a good place to paddle. There is a tour outfit > Slick Rock has paddling available at Glover's reef. Perhaps you are > inquiring about them? > http://www.slickrock.com/longcaye.htm > > I have inquired on several occasions about shipping my own kayak to > Belize but haven't found anything that is reasonable. One shipper > wanted $1,000 each way. > > Anyone have any recommendations for reliable, reasonable international > shipping? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I'm not too keen on paddling entry level plastics for touring around. Not too keen on sit on tops either. These boats have their place. I am interested in expeditioning: Open coast, 20 mile days. I think it's prudent to be picky about the boat you use for such an endeavor. It's hard to find a rental boats I feel are suitable for expeditioning, so I have been looking for ways to ship my own boat. Robert > > Why would you want to ship a kayak rather than rent considering the > expense? I saw rentals listed on Caye Caulker for $60/day - but even at > that price the boats are probably entry level plastic or sit on tops. > > I have seen slickrocks video but being adventurous and cheap, I would > prefer to set my own itinerary. The outfitter below, although mainly a > dive > location, rents camp sites, rooms, huts over the water, provides meals > and > rents kayaks. The poly wilderness systems for $125/week does not look to > bad. > > > > > I have inquired on several occasions about shipping my own kayak to > > Belize but haven't found anything that is reasonable. One shipper > > wanted $1,000 each way. > > > > Anyone have any recommendations for reliable, reasonable international > > shipping? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert C Cline" <rccline_at_fastmail.fm> > I'm not too keen on paddling entry level plastics for touring around. > Not too keen on sit on tops either. These boats have their place. I am > interested in expeditioning: Open coast, 20 mile days. I think it's > prudent to be picky about the boat you use for such an endeavor. It's > hard to find a rental boats I feel are suitable for expeditioning, so I > have been looking for ways to ship my own boat. Robert: W/ shipping rates such as cited it really seems unreasonable. Have you considered building one of Tom Yost's folders. For somewhere around 300$ worth of materials and under 100hrs of your labor you could have a nice portable well performing boat. You could even make a folding version of your favorite rigid/glass boat. check it out: http://yostwerks.com/MainMenu.html An other idea is the "disposable kit" skin on frame. That is, you build a skin on frame kayak, disassemble the parts, stuff them in a duffle bag as Harvey Golden did when he went to Greenland. You spend a day and a half asembling the thing at your destination and leave it there when you depart. Materials would be under 100$ . Robert Morris in his book "Building Skin on frame Boats" has the details on how to accomplish this. Chris Cunningham of Skayaker mag has done one or two this way as well. He details this in his book on "Building the Greenland Kayak". He actually uses a #10 YKK zipper on the skin so he can disassemble the thing and take it back home w/ him. (making it waterproof w/ Sno-Seal boot wax) For half the cost of shipping a rigid I bet Tom would rent you one of his folders !!!!!and then w/ the ballance you could buy me a ticket so I could go paddling w/ you in Belize. :-) kind regards: Michael *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Michael Wrote: >>>For half the cost of shipping a rigid I bet Tom would rent you one of his folders !!!!!and then w/ the ballance you could buy me a ticket so I could go paddling w/ you in Belize. Make that two ticket so "we" could go paddling in Belize. Ha! Tom *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> You could even make a folding version of your > favorite rigid/glass boat. > check it out: > http://yostwerks.com/MainMenu.html > > An other idea is the "disposable kit" skin on frame. That is, you build a > skin on frame kayak, disassemble the parts, stuff them in a duffle bag as > Harvey Golden did when he went to Greenland. You spend a day and a half > asembling the thing at your destination and leave it there when you depart. > Materials would be under 100$ . > Robert Morris in his book "Building Skin on frame Boats" has the details on > how to accomplish this. > Chris Cunningham of Skayaker mag has done one or two this way as well. He > details this in his book on "Building the Greenland Kayak". He actually uses > a #10 YKK zipper on the skin so he can disassemble the thing and take it > back home w/ him. (making it waterproof w/ Sno-Seal boot wax) > > For half the cost of shipping a rigid I bet Tom would rent you one of his > folders As to the disposable SOF - the day that I have to spend on un-packing of carefully packed (against those terrible luggage handlers) folder, assembling it and loading evrything in after a tiresome flight, answering a zillion questions of unlookers (yes, it is a kayak; no, I didn't make it myself; yes, it can sail; no, skin won't dissolve after a week in salty waters, and so on) - is the most miserable day in the whole trip. Assembling a disposable SOF would probably take longer. On the other hand, renting a folder sounds interesting. Commercial folders can be rented for 2 weeks cheaper than $500, I think. A week ago I saw a folder, double Greenland 2 by Folbot, for CDN $ 650 (about USD 500), which sounds even better than renting, thoug I don't know its condition. And of course, it's a pretty wide double with open-style cockpit, not a single hardshell kayak, don't be mistaken. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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