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From: <keith.wrage_at_charter.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] waterproof LED headlamps?
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:06:17 +0000
This has been discussed before but...can someone recommend a waterproof LED headlamp?  Want something not necessarily for on-water use - more for in camp and loading/unloading but want to carry it in my PFD so needs to handle water.

Thanks in advance,
K
From: Richard Birdsey <birdseyclan_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] waterproof LED headlamps?
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:04:22 +1100
My immediate thought Keith is if you don't necessarily need it for 
on-water use then why carry it in your PFD? I have religiously carried 
torches around in my PFD as part of my general equipment for ages and 
never needed them. One now rattles around  in my day hatch. That being 
said I always carry one if paddling at dawn/dusk or at night along with 
statutory nav lights.  If it's for on-land use then I reckon pretty much 
any lightweight head torch would do. My paddling colleagues and I have 
been using el-cheapo knock-offs of big name brands found in boat shops 
and electronics stores with remarkable success.

If you want to carry it in your PFD I'd suggest using a compact AA 
battery hand torch on a lanyard for general use as they pack better and 
are less bulky. I have had mixed results with Princeton Tec torches, two 
of which have flooded during rolling even they are rated to 500ft (both 
replaced under warranty but unimpressive performance for the price). 
IMHO Pelicans are a better product. Petzel is very cagey on the 
waterproofness of their products so I'd give them a swerve. There are 
lots of good gear to be found in dive shops now as well. The size and 
quality of the seals, flexibility in ways it can be mounted and one 
handed operation are a key features to look for.

Richard
Sydney, Australia.
From: Black Coffee 2002 <black-coffee2002_at_karavshin.org>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] waterproof LED headlamps?
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:59:03 +0800
> are less bulky. I have had mixed results with Princeton Tec 
> torches, two 
> of which have flooded during rolling even they are rated to 
> 500ft (both 
> replaced under warranty but unimpressive performance for the price). 

I don't know how they've improved over the years, but my experience w/
Princeton Tec lights was dismal -- the tab on the cheaply-made battery hatch
snaps off, leaving the unit totally worthless.  This happened to me while on
a climbing trip in Australia.  I encountered other people with Princeton Tec
lights who experienced exactly the same failure.  

I was surprised/disappointed to hear Petzls aren't sufficiently waterproof.
They're really good in terrestrial environments and  I would have hoped
they'd work in water as well.  Perhaps they make some caving/spelunking
units that are more appropriate than those for camping/climbing ?
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From: alex <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] waterproof LED headlamps?
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:36:11 -0800
> I don't know how they've improved over the years, but my experience w/
> Princeton Tec lights was dismal -- the tab on the cheaply-made battery
hatch
> snaps off, leaving the unit totally worthless.  This happened to me while
on
> a climbing trip in Australia.  I encountered other people with Princeton
Tec
> lights who experienced exactly the same failure.  I was
surprised/disappointed to hear >Petzls aren't sufficiently waterproof.
They're really good in terrestrial environments

Must've been Princeton *headlamps* (Aurora etc), since Princeton Tec
flashlights with cylindrical bodies have no hatches for the most part. Such
flashlights turn on and off by rotating the reflector around the body.
Should be quite waterproof, until rubber O-ring fails, or after
screwing/unscrewing it many times, so the thread would wear out. On the
contrary, headlamps Aurora (and Petzl, I think) have a wide hatch, even
though with a rubber O-ring, but without a thread, so don't expect it to be
waterproof. But, yes, they are OK for heavy rainfall or even occasional
dunking shallow water.
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