OK, I know this is probably taking frugality to the extreme, but I've got a Snapdragon spray skirt, bottom half neoprene & top half nylon, where the white waterproof coating on the nylon part is peeling off. Does anyone know if there is a coating you could just paint on to restore the waterproofing? I know there are various things you can spray on that are generally intended for things like tent floors, but I wouldn't want to attempt this unless I could be confident it would hold up to a lot of wear and tear. Evan Dallas Woodinville, Washington *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"Evan Dallas" <evand_at_pensionresourcegroup.com> wrote: > OK, I know this is probably taking frugality to the extreme, but I've got a > Snapdragon spray skirt, bottom half neoprene & top half nylon, where the > white waterproof coating on the nylon part is peeling off. Yup, that is taking frugality to an extreme. If the coating is delaminating that badly, the neoprene is probably ready to tear, also ... and that could be a disaster. I've had two or three of my Snapdragon skirts delam, and I tried various re-coat products, None of them worked. I gave them away to people I did not like [grin]. NOT! -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"Evan Dallas" <evand_at_pensionresourcegroup.com> wrote: > top half nylon, where the white waterproof coating on the nylon part is peeling off. Does anyone know if there is a coating you could just paint on to restore the waterproofing?I know there are various things you can spray on that are generally intended for things like tent floors, but I wouldn't want to attempt this unless I could be confident it would hold up to a lot of wear and tear. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, Evan. With Scots blood myself, I love it when people try to be frugal. But I've worked for a major outdoor retailer for 15 years. Years back we used to stock "recoat" products for tent floors and flys. We stopping carrying them as we realized we were creating customer frustration rather than satisfaction. Any consumer applied coating quickly develops terminal dandruff. The basic problem is that the factory coatings are applied with dozens of tiny nozzles, using coating thinned with ugly solvents that couldn't be included in a consumer product, and smoothed out by special blades as the fabric is rolled beneath them. You couldn't reproduce the consistency and durability of the original coating at home anymore than you could restore a car's factory paint job with a tin of paint and a brush. I had been going to suggest replacing the tunnel with new coated fabric, but it would propably cost a large fraction of what a new skirt would, and another poster has made the point that the neoprene deck's getting on in years too. Best to buy a new skirt for the water, and retire the old one to ceremonial purposes only - dances at kayak festivals, and so on. Philip *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Philip <kayakwriter_at_netscape.net> wrote: >> Years back we used to stock "recoat" products for tent floors and flies. >> We stopping carrying them as we realized we were creating customer >> frustration rather than satisfaction. Any consumer applied coating quickly >> develops terminal dandruff. The basic problem is that the factory coatings >> are applied with dozens of tiny nozzles, using coating thinned with ugly >> solvents that couldn't be included in a consumer product, and smoothed out >> by special blades as the fabric is rolled beneath them. >> Exactly. McNett's water-based product and their solvent-based product are both useless. I tried both, and they both fail. I suspect surface prep of the nylon may be an issue, also ... because the DIY-applied coating comes away clean from the nylon. OTOH, it could be that a seam-taped new top would work. Not a difficult sewing project, Evan. Seattle Fabrics, up your way, would have all the goodies. If you try it, please report back. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Moderator's Note: Content unaltered. Excessive quoting (including headers/footers/sig lines/extraneous text from previous posts, etc.) have been removed. Please edit quoted material in addition to removing header/trailers when replying to posts.] As a last resort, you might try the method we used to repair coated drysuits for the offshore oil patch: We simply thinned Aquaseal to the consistency of watery paint using Cotol (toluene) and painted it on. Very effective, durable and water tight. It does of course reduce the flexibility somewhat, but not enough to be of concern. Magoo (descendant of MacKays and MacLeods) A fan of thrift... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Dallas" <evand_at_pensionresourcegroup.com> Subject: [Paddlewise] Delaminating spray skirt > OK, I know this is probably taking frugality to the extreme, but I've got a > Snapdragon spray skirt, bottom half neoprene & top half nylon, where the > white waterproof coating on the nylon part is peeling off. Does anyone know > if there is a coating you could just paint on to restore the waterproofing? > I know there are various things you can spray on that are generally intended > for things like tent floors, but I wouldn't want to attempt this unless I > could be confident it would hold up to a lot of wear and tear. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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