For as good a book as it otherwise is, the Ralph Diaz explanation of good paddling stroke style is almost all text and is difficult for me to visualize usefully. Can anyone point to online videos or demonstrations of good foldable kayak paddling strokes? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Okay I'll jump in. Can you not get training locally? You can watch some very good videos but without the proper feedback from a good coach it may mean nothing. Having said that try either the Performance Kayak video or one of the Nigel Foster series of dvds. Strokes are strokes and I am not sure distinguishing the type of equipment that you are paddling should be a factor. Give yourself what you deserve and take some training, even if you have to travel for that! Brgds, Jeffrey Bingham > For as good a book as it otherwise is, the Ralph Diaz explanation of good > paddling stroke style is almost all text and is difficult for me to > visualize usefully. Can anyone point to online videos or demonstrations of > good foldable kayak paddling strokes? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Yeah, I know what you mean. Sadly I live in Singapore, where there is an immense love of organization, procedure, rules, ranking, and everything else totally anathema to an enjoyable hobby. Consequently it looks like I'll have to wait till I make a trip to Australia, Europe, or the USA where I could get a useful clinic on paddling. In the meantime I just try to keep my conservative-ness level an order of magnitude safer than I might think I need to. Thanks for the pointers to the videos. Regards *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 4/2/2005 8:14:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, black-coffee2002_at_karavshin.org writes: For as good a book as it otherwise is, the Ralph Diaz explanation of good paddling stroke style is almost all text and is difficult for me to visualize usefully. Can anyone point to online videos or demonstrations of good foldable kayak paddling strokes? A friend of mine paddles a K1 Feathercraft away and a WS Tempest at home. His stroke is the same. Rob G *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> In a message dated 4/2/2005 8:14:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, > black-coffee2002_at_karavshin.org writes: > > For as good a book as it otherwise is, the Ralph Diaz explanation of > good paddling stroke style is almost all text and is difficult for > me to visualize usefully. Can anyone point to online videos or > demonstrations of good foldable kayak paddling strokes? > > > > A friend of mine paddles a K1 Feathercraft away and a WS Tempest at > home. His stroke is the same. > > > Rob G The only difference I can think of is if -- as I seem to recall -- the folding boat is somewhat wider than hardshell sea kayaks. The result would be that a more vertical stroke would be difficult to attain. But the same applies to tandems and rec boats. It's not the "folding" that makes the difference, it's the "wider". -- Darryl *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Monday 04 April 2005 17.32, you wrote: > The only difference I can think of is if -- as I seem to recall -- > the folding boat is somewhat wider than hardshell sea kayaks. The > result would be that a more vertical stroke would be difficult to > attain. > > But the same applies to tandems and rec boats. It's not the "folding" > that makes the difference, it's the "wider". Not all folders are wider, even if the old style folders, like the Klepper Aerius II, are! Tord *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I would recommend a class as well and there are a lot of good videos on the market. I did put some clips online taken during some of my courses: http://onwatersports.com/Movies/ . They aren't perfect and people might hae different opinions. Strokes should work in a folding kayak too! Andree *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 4/4/2005 5:29:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, Darryl.Johnson_at_sympatico.ca writes: For as good a book as it otherwise is, the Ralph Diaz explanation of > good paddling stroke style is almost all text and is difficult for > me to visualize usefully. Can anyone point to online videos or > demonstrations of good foldable kayak paddling strokes? > > > > A friend of mine paddles a K1 Feathercraft away and a WS Tempest at > home. His stroke is the same. > > > Rob G The only difference I can think of is if -- as I seem to recall -- the folding boat is somewhat wider than hardshell sea kayaks. The result would be that a more vertical stroke would be difficult to attain. But the same applies to tandems and rec boats. It's not the "folding" that makes the difference, it's the "wider". My buddy executes a vertical stroke and it really worked just fine despite the K1 being 3+ inches wider than his Tempest. I think it helped him that his Lendal Varilok Paddlock paddle has a capability of extending from 210cm to 215cm, I did note him switch to 215 after a couple days on our recent trip to Costa Rica. I brought along a 220cm Werner Molokai as backup in case his new paddle was not quite long enough. He is tall and has long arms so his reach to the water is not as challenged in the K1 as someone whose arm length is in the Charlie Brown category. Rob G *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Not all folders are wider, even if the old style folders, like the Klepper > Aerius II, are! > > Tord Yes, same are kind of "black sheeps" in this family, with beam indecently narrow :-), like Khatsalano, First Light, or Folbot Cooper. 230 cm paddle works well for all Feathercraft singles, but for wider folders it won't be enough. Besides, many of them have high cockpit coaming, this is another reason to go longer than 230 cm. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Alex said: 230 cm paddle works well for all Feathercraft singles, but for wider folders it won't be enough. Besides, many of them have high cockpit coaming, this is another reason to go longer than 230 cm. I have a Feathercraft K-1 (Expedition) and a K-2. The longest paddle I own is a 220 and it is fine for either of the folders. As with other discussions about paddle length, I think the sort of stroke style one has makes a big difference. I am 5'8" with relatively long arms if that helps understand what I'm saying. My wife, who is 5'2", uses the same blades and hasn't had any trouble with the double. She uses a flatter stroke than my more vertical style. Jim Tibensky *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I have a Feathercraft K-1 (Expedition) and a K-2. The longest paddle I > own is a 220 and it is fine for either of the folders. As with other > discussions about paddle length, I think the sort of stroke style one > has makes a big difference. I am 5'8" with relatively long arms if that > helps understand what I'm saying. > > My wife, who is 5'2", uses the same blades and hasn't had any trouble > with the double. She uses a flatter stroke than my more vertical style. 220 cm paddle on 33" wide boat for 5'2" paddler is interesting. 33" in the middle, - may be 30" or 28" at the seat, OK... Flatter stroke, OK... If she sits behind you in K2, then I would suspect yet another possibility - she doesn't dip the length of the blade completely - you don't see it, right ;-) ? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Alex: then I would suspect yet another possibility - she doesn't dip the length of the blade completely - you don't see it, right ;-)? All I can say is that there have been times when I heard her snoring back there, but I was afraid to look. Jim Tibensky *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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