H20 Audio launches first underwater housing for Apple's iPod mini from surf to snow - H2O Audio enables iPod mini to endure all elements. The SV-iMini includes a unique waterproof dial and push button assembly providing full access to the iPod mini's proprietary Click Wheel controls. __ There are covers for iPods such as referred to above that allege waterproof music. I have no personal experience and am skeptical about such claims because of experiences with other "waterproof" electronics (radio's, GPS) But these all offer some level of water resistance. The cheaper "flash drive" music devices such as the iPod Shuffle are presumably more water resistant. I think that you can listen to music in most paddling environments but I am more skeptical about surfing and rolling with my portable music. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:27 AM, Robert Livingston wrote: > H20 Audio launches first underwater housing for Apple's iPod mini > from surf to snow - H2O Audio enables iPod mini to endure all elements. I for one paddle largely to be in contact with nature through all my senses including sound. Why on earth would I want to listen to music while paddling anywhere? Next thing they'll come up with waterproof TV so I can watch the discovery channel while I'm paddling. That way I won't have to bother looking at what is around me. Michael in Tallahassee *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I for one paddle largely to be in contact with nature through all my > senses including sound. This has already been mentioned by several including myself so your not saying anything that most of us don't already agree with. > Why on earth would I want to listen to music while paddling anywhere? I got mine for some of the longer stretches of the Texas Water Safari and for training. Incase your unfamiliar with the Safari that is a 260 mile race from San Marcus to Seadrift . When your paddling down the lower Colorado River, where I train, and both the wind and river are flowing in the opposite direction then you and it's 100 plus in the shade some music can be highly motivational. > Next thing they'll come up with waterproof TV so I can watch the > discovery channel while I'm paddling. That way I won't have to bother > looking at what is around me. Now your just being silly. Here's wishing everyone a great Summer of paddling with or without the tasty tunes. Stephen F Logan Bay City, TX *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
My initial reaction was the same. But then I read Paul Theroux's The Happy Isles of Oceania & he talks about listening to his walkman on long paddles. I was motivated to purchase the Otter case for my iPod & carry both. I tend to use it on fitness paddles. Really helps me keep on pace when all I care about is getting from one end of the lake to the other & back again as quickly as possible. It's also nice on urban paddle trips (which I sadly take quite often). Rather listen to Coldplay then the trucks on the highway or the lawnmowers/leaf blowers of suburbia. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 12:08 PM 6/23/2005, John Snoddy wrote: >My initial reaction was the same. But then I read Paul Theroux's The Happy >Isles of Oceania & he talks about listening to his walkman on long >paddles. I was motivated to purchase the Otter case for my iPod & carry >both. I tend to use it on fitness paddles. Really helps me keep on pace >when all I care about is getting from one end of the lake to the other & >back again as quickly as possible. It's also nice on urban paddle trips >(which I sadly take quite often). Rather listen to Coldplay then the >trucks on the highway or the lawnmowers/leaf blowers of suburbia. I can understand that because trucks, lawnmowers, and leaf blowers rarely try to occupy the same space you might be paddling in. However, in many urban paddling environments there may be other boat traffic that do share the same space. A few years ago I was paddling with a group of primarily recreational kayak paddlers and one woman strapped a waterproof walkman as soon as we launched. Our route took us through a cut through an island that was the only navigable path for many miles so there was a *lot* of powerboat traffic. She was paddling merrily along in the middle of the channel bopping along to her music and completely oblivious to the fact that there was a large motor boat coming up at a fairly fast clip at her stern. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> However, in many urban paddling environments there may be other boat traffic that do share the same space. Valid point. There are many occaisions when a head full of music is a bad idea when paddling. But I have to admit when I'm on the lake (Pinchot Lake in central PA -- no power boats!) I can get into paddling to the beat! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I just returned from an eight day kayaking trip in Fredrick Sound and paddled to a natural symphony of : Wind whistling in the Raven's wings, Eagles in full screech as they locked talons and spiraled in the sky in mating flight, Artic terns crying wree, wree, wree as they fished the sea, Harbor porpoise as they breathed deep before diving below the waves The howl of the wind on the water and the crash of waves on a barnacled covered shore and the beating rythmn behind it all.... Humpback whales breaching again and again, Boom, Boom, Boom Wear headphones? You have got to be kidding! Bob Listening in Alaska *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Bob, On Thursday, June 23, 2005, at 11:51:50 AM PST, you wrote: > Wear headphones? You have got to be kidding! Well said! I'm a musician, and I have a hard time with music as "background" in almost any situation; especially when I'm doing something like paddling, biking, hiking, etc. Even when I sit here at the computer, I don't listen to music. When I do listen to music, that's all I do. Perhaps it's because music is so important to me that I don't like to mix it with other activities, as it takes my full attention and distracts me from whatever else I'm doing and/or thinking about. When I listen to music, that's all I want to be doing. I just can't imagine *any* circumstance where I'd want music to accompany my paddling, as each is totally involving for me, and therefore mutually exclusive. -- Melissa *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have to take my hearing aids out when I paddle, so I am just about deaf. I can't here most birds and animals. Just barely here people and have to crane my neck to watch for motor boats. I have to keep my VHF radio full volume to hear. I guess what I am saying is, be thankful that you can here anything, be it nature or music. Brules *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> What are you talking about? Where and when???? There have been exactly > three responses to the original post, one from me partially quoted above, > one from you also partially quoted above and a third from John Snoddy. So > where are these other mentions including yours?? O.K. here is my original post to Doug's enquiry. >What a coincidence, I just purchased an iPod Shuffle two weeks ago just > >for that purpose. For the most part and I think most would agree, I >prefer >to paddle with all my senses available to me. Often, whether it's >a change in current, an alligator splashing into river or a powerboat the >first warning I get is from my ears. This only becomes that much more >important >when paddling in the dark. I am positive I am not telling you >anything you don't already know. Having said that occasionally some music >can be very motivational. Being a former professional dancer (the ballet >kind not the Chippendale kind) I have always been a person that was moved >by >music. >I decided on the Shuffle because of the price, the size and the simplicity >of use. I plan on using it with a small dry bag. I looked at the iriver >but, decided since I can't usually get a FM signal where I paddle that I > >did not need that feature. I was not aware they made a water-proof >version >and that might have influenced my decision. >So far I am happy with the Shuffle and believe it is the closest you can >come to having music piped directly into your brain via an implant. I will >let you know how it fairs on the water. As you can see I had agreed that for the most part I prefer the sounds of nature and sited cases were having all sences on hand was valuable. There were atleast two others that expressed the same sentiment. These were posted around the 14th-15th of June. You also wrote: > Why on earth would I want to listen to music while paddling anywhere? In which I explained under what circumstances I would enjoy having some music. To be honest I found your original post sort of snotty to imply that somehow I am less in touch with nature because I might like to listen to the occasional tune while I paddle. Perhaps that was not your intent. Perhaps you are someone who doesn't realy like music all that much. In that case, "to each their own". To be clear, at this time, I have yet to try my iPod on the water and have done 100 percent of my paddling thus far without music. I have been known to check the weather just to break up the longer paddles. You don't have a problem with vhf marine radios? Now for you Bob. If I was paddling the same waters you were I too would not block the natural sounds I was experiancing but, I am often doing training runs on the same section of the Colorado River here in Texas. Don't get me wrong, I love the river but, there are some section I am so familar with that I am starting to name the gators. O.K. Melissa now it's your turn. Do you not dance? Wouldn't that count as a mixed activity? Again, I would like to restate my original position that under most circumstances I too prefer to paddle with the sounds of nature in my ears but, those of you who are insisting that it is the only way to paddle are starting to creep me out. Stephen *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Stephen, > > Now for you Bob. If I was paddling the same waters you were I too would > not block the natural sounds I was experiancing but, I am often doing > training runs on the same section of the Colorado River here in Texas. > Don't get me wrong, I love the river but, there are some section I am so > familar with that I am starting to name the gators. > This reminds me of the time I was kayaking in the Florida Keys and two "Cigarette" racing motor boats screamed by at a ridiculous speed. The noise about blew my ears drums out! I couldn't hear anything fopr the next several minutes. Maybe if I had had head phones on they would have saved my ear drums. Enjoy the river and say hello to the gators for me. Bob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Stephen wrote: > Bob, I am naming the gators after some of the more prodigious Paddlewise > contributors. Doug Lloyd, Duane Strosaker, and Rev. Bob have all been > used. I am honored. In return we have two big sealions that live in the local harbor and often follow me in and out of the harbor. I will name one for you. May neither one of us get bit. Bob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> This reminds me of the time I was kayaking in the Florida Keys and two > "Cigarette" racing motor boats screamed by at a ridiculous speed. The > noise about blew my ears drums out! I couldn't hear anything fopr the next > several minutes. Maybe if I had had head phones on they would have saved > my ear drums. > > Enjoy the river and say hello to the gators for me. > > Bob > Ya'll know I sometimes forget how lucky I am to live in a semi-rural area with quick access to both river, bays and the Gulf. My work also allows me to set my own hours. I am rarely on the water during the weekend and almost never during holidays. Because of these factors it is not uncommon for me to do entire trips and not see another living being. Sometimes the occasional fisherman. Perhaps this makes me a little more inclined to listen to music while paddling. Bob, I am naming the gators after some of the more prodigious Paddlewise contributors. Doug Lloyd, Duane Strosaker, and Rev. Bob have all been used. Stephen *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Bob posted: >I just returned from an eight day kayaking trip in Fredrick Sound and >paddled to a natural symphony of : Wind whistling in the Raven's wings, >Eagles in full screech as they locked talons and spiralled in the sky in >mating flight, Artic terns crying wree, wree, wree as they fished the sea, >Harbor porpoise as they breathed deep before diving below the waves The >howl of the wind on the water and the crash of waves on a barnacled covered >shore and the beating rythmn behind it all....Humpback whales breaching >again and again, Boom, Boom, Boom< Don't forget the constant, annoying, ongoing drone of mosquitoes; the exquisite sound of Alaska-sized horse flies munching on huge bites of your epidermal membrane (or worse, and the co-committant cacophony of swooshing fly swatter sounds at camp); or the ephemeral night-time sonance of boisterous noseums bustling through that small fire-spark hole in your tent's net-door. Buzz, buzzz, buzzzzzzz. :-) >Wear headphones? You have got to be kidding!< Yeah, who was the idiot that started this thread anyway? Umm, oh yeah, it was me. Well, I did end up getting a new personal listening device (CD/mp3/am-fm player, on advise of a paddlewiser), but I'll probably save it and the nice Sennheiser headphones for inside the tent late at night. For the kind of conditions I wanted to try paddling to music in, I'd have to crank the volume so high with some equally-expensive in-ear, ear-buds that it would be damaging to my ears. Also, I don't think I need the extra din of piped-in music, when one is arguably kayaking to escape all that man-made noise, anyway -- though there are certainly circumstances where reasons of personal choice can't be denied, as long as safety isn't compromised. And it is kinda fun lying in your tent on a lonely beach at night, listening to all those Japanese stations coming in clearly. :-) But routine use of portable audio devices for kayaking? No way, I'd miss some of those other favourite kayaking sounds I like, like: the warbling bouncy noise of my buddy's plastic boat, the hull slightly buckling over every cresting wave; the adventurous, blush-inducing yell of my buddy as his cheap crimping tool slips and pinches his finger; and the expressive blast of marital discord as the couple down the beach scream away trying to assembled their Long Haul Double. :-) Then there's the sound of silence...a good place to end here. Doug Lloyd Victoria BC *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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