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From: Matt Broze <marinerkayaks_at_msn.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Shrinking paddler demographic
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:29:36 -0700
>Personally, I find paddling can become a bit monotonous at times. Chris 
>Cunningham made an interesting observation recently about the 
>difficulty enticing a younger demographic to the enjoyment of paddling, 
>when that same

>demographic probably isn't too interested in an activity that requires 
>hours of constant, slow moving activity - given the current generation 
>of younger

>adults who's penchant for media action and fast-paced recreation may 
>preclude the commitment necessary for sea kayaking..

How many out there agree with me that this is really good news. With the
boom over and attrition from the grim reaper on the other end as well maybe
sea kayaking will again return to being a sport where one doesn't have to
compete for a camp spot. Maybe I can again enjoy a wilderness experience
without having to burn so much fossil fuels to get to it before the reaper
gets me.

As for the shrinking WW demographic. Would you take up a sport, even if you
were a wild and stupid testosterone charged young man, that seems, from the
media portrayal, to be mostly throwing yourself off of high waterfalls
without a parachute and trying to miss the rocks far below. Remember, wind
surfing. It was once very popular too.

Matt Broze
www.marinerkayaks.com  
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From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Shrinking paddler demographic
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:54:23 -0700
Maybe there's a shrinking demographic for serious touring - don't have 
statistics either way, but boy, there's a heap of recreational kayaks, 
SOT's, and pseudo touring boats out there last time I was at the lake. Every 
age was represented. However, last time I made a post about less is more 
from a selfish perspective, I think I was flamed.

DL

> >Personally, I find paddling can become a bit monotonous at times. Chris
>>Cunningham made an interesting observation recently about the
>>difficulty enticing a younger demographic to the enjoyment of paddling,
>>when that same
>
>>demographic probably isn't too interested in an activity that requires
>>hours of constant, slow moving activity - given the current generation
>>of younger
>
>>adults who's penchant for media action and fast-paced recreation may
>>preclude the commitment necessary for sea kayaking..
>
> How many out there agree with me that this is really good news. With the
> boom over and attrition from the grim reaper on the other end as well 
> maybe
> sea kayaking will again return to being a sport where one doesn't have to
> compete for a camp spot. Maybe I can again enjoy a wilderness experience
> without having to burn so much fossil fuels to get to it before the reaper
> gets me.
>
> As for the shrinking WW demographic. Would you take up a sport, even if 
> you
> were a wild and stupid testosterone charged young man, that seems, from 
> the
> media portrayal, to be mostly throwing yourself off of high waterfalls
> without a parachute and trying to miss the rocks far below. Remember, wind
> surfing. It was once very popular too.
>
> Matt Broze
> www.marinerkayaks.com
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From: Mark Sanders <sandmarks_at_ca.rr.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Shrinking paddler demographic
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:43:22 -0700
Well I'm kinda new to the sport. I'm hoping the grim reaper gives me a few
good years kayaking before giving my spot to the more deserving. I've never
been kayak camping, but I've never found the sea to be too crowded to affect
my enjoyment. When I'm out in the ocean, it always seems there's too few
paddlers, not too many. Course, I only paddle out of one of the world's
busiest pleasure boat harbors.

Mark Sanders

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Broze


How many out there agree with me that this is really good news. With the
boom over and attrition from the grim reaper on the other end as well maybe
sea kayaking will again return to being a sport where one doesn't have to
compete for a camp spot.
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From: <Rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Shrinking paddler demographic
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 01:54:20 EDT
In a message dated 7/9/2007 8:38:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
marinerkayaks_at_msn.com writes:

How many  out there agree with me that this is really good news. With the
boom over  and attrition from the grim reaper on the other end as well maybe
sea  kayaking will again return to being a sport where one doesn't have  to
compete for a camp spot. Maybe I can again enjoy a wilderness  experience
without having to burn so much fossil fuels to get to it before  the reaper
gets me.

As for the shrinking WW demographic. Would you  take up a sport, even if you
were a wild and stupid testosterone charged  young man, that seems, from the
media portrayal, to be mostly throwing  yourself off of high waterfalls
without a parachute and trying to miss the  rocks far below. Remember, wind
surfing. It was once very popular  too.

Matt Broze
www.marinerkayaks.com   



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
Matt,
 
You will never face the grim reaper. You will kick his ass, and report back  
to us. No exclamations or emoticons necessary.
 
All the best,
 
Rob G
 
By the way, if you do face unduly campsite pressure, tell them what you did  
to the formerly grim, but now corrected reaper.



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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Shrinking paddler demographic
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:15:49 -0700
Matt Broze wrote:

> [snip] maybe sea  kayaking will again return to being a sport where one
> doesn't have  to compete for a camp spot. Maybe I can again enjoy a
> wilderness  experience without having to burn so much fossil fuels to
> get to it before  the reaper gets me.

Depends on what you mean by wilderness experience, I suppose.  Your old 
haunts on the west coast of Vancouver Island are as busy as ever.  However, 
with your skills and talent, all you have to do is skip over a point or two 
and you can have some isolation.

Or, do the shoulder season.  Even in Clayoquot Sound and in the Deers, I've 
found solitude in September.  Good weather, too!

I've noticed that pressure from sea kayakers for my "favorite" spots on the 
Columbia seems to have decreased somewhat; now if I could reduce the 
population of boat-in partiers, I'd be home free.  In winter or early 
spring, there is no one on the Columbia.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Geoff Jennings <geoff_at_texaskilonewton.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Shrinking paddler demographic
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:35:33 -0700
Matt Broze wrote:
> As for the shrinking WW demographic. Would you take up a sport, even 
> if you
> were a wild and stupid testosterone charged young man, that seems, 
> from the
> media portrayal, to be mostly throwing yourself off of high waterfalls
> without a parachute and trying to miss the rocks far below. 
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I guess if I was a wild and stupid testosterone charged young man, I 
might be interested. I only take offense at the "stupid" part. Oh, and 
"wild". Running stuff like waterfalls leaves little room for error... 
Even "wild" young men get mighty focused in hard whitewater.
Geoff

-- 
Geoff Jennings geoff_at_texaskilonewton.com

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never 
stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and 
neither do we." George Bush - Aug. 5, 2004
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