How does one assess the viability of an older plastic kayak? Plastic can become brittle over time, even if its stored indoors. Sunlight can make ageing even worse. How do you determine how much life an older kayak has left? If you have a kayak infront of you, how do you determine how brittle it has become? --------------------------------------------------------------- Please limit all email attachments sent to this address to a maximum of 0.5MB. All email attachments that are larger then 0.5MB will automatically be deleted. --------------------------------------------------------------- ICQ: 262152266, AIM: GlamourpetsD, MSN: [my email address], Yahoo Messenger: glamourpets --------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Derek wrote: > How does one assess the viability of an older plastic kayak? If you > have a kayak infront of you, how do you determine how brittle it has > become? Punch it hard in the open areas and see if it rebounds similarly to a new one. If it is at all brittle feeling, reject it. Also look for extreme fading, sugetive of overexposure to sunlight. Finally, compare the hull and deck to see if one is markedly more faded or brittle than the other. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
--- Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com> wrote: > Derek wrote: > > How does one assess the viability of an older > plastic kayak? If you > > have a kayak infront of you, how do you determine > how brittle it has > > become? > > Punch it hard in the open areas and see if it > rebounds similarly to a new > one. If it is at all brittle feeling, reject it. > Also look for extreme > fading, sugetive of overexposure to sunlight. > Finally, compare the hull > and deck to see if one is markedly more faded or > brittle than the other. I think if I were to punch a hole in a seller's merchandise, I'd own it for sure (even if it is junk). :P Your advice is good. Thankyou. I have seen sun fading on boats stored outside, but have not seen "brittleness" issues yet. The boats I am thinking of were yellow and now are almost a washed out tan-white colour. How long should a well-cared-for plastic boat last before it is functionally unsafe for use? What is a reasonable lifespan expectation? Derek ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Derek wrote: > How long should a well-cared-for plastic boat last before it is > functionally unsafe for use? What is a reasonable lifespan expectation? That is hard to say. Depends on the service, particularly exposure to UV (e.g., sunlight). The punch test is the best -- it will not penetrate the boat (and, so what if it does -- you save some unsuspecting person from buying an unsafe craft), but it will tell you the degree of flexibility left in the hull. Here is what punching "lifetime plastic kayak" into Google brought up: http://www.roguepaddler.com/letter1.htm Google is good for imponderables. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Which begs the question... how do you get *rid* of one? Has anyone taken a chainsaw to a rotomolded kayak? I could use my truck tires but their new. Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Jackie Myers wrote: > > > I could use my truck tires but their new. > Excuse me... but _they're_ new. I hate it when that happens. Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
--- Jackie Myers <jackie_at_muddypuppies.com> wrote: > Which begs the question... how do you get *rid* of > one? I have been cutting sheets of ABS plastic for a non-kayak related project, and its relatively easy to do. Plastic is harder than wood but it is softer than metal. A fine toothed blade in a table saw gives clean cuts. You need to go a little slower then plywood, but otherwise it cuts the same way. In the case of a kayak that is going for garbage, I think my approach would be to cut it up with a sawzall. The cuts will be a little bit crude, but its easy to do. A sawzall has enough power to cut up autobody pannels, so a plastic kayak should be no problem at all. I personally live on a busy city street. If I were to put the kayak at the side of the road with a note that says "Free" I'm sure that somebody would take it. I bet it would disappear within 24 hours. Its amazing what people will scavenge. I have seen a few boats listed on craigslist.org that are apparently in "needs work" condition. These boats really are useless, but maybe someone will buy with the intention of repairing it. Price it low and somebody will think they are getting a deal. Here is one more "creative" idea. Fill it with candy, then hang it from the ceiling like in pinyata. Give some kids base ball bats and tell them to have fun. :) Derek ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> --- Jackie Myers <jackie_at_muddypuppies.com> wrote: > >> Which begs the question... how do you get *rid* of >> one? Why get rid of it? Paint it, hang it on your wall and call it art. Fill it up with sand and it's a sandbox for the kids. In the same vain fill it up with water and it's a wading pool. Fill it with potting soil and it's a planter. Also, I'm sure there are many drinking establishments that would take it off your hands to add to the decor. I have more.... Stephen BC, TX *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 08:47 AM 7/29/2007, Stephen F Logan wrote: >>--- Jackie Myers <jackie_at_muddypuppies.com> wrote: >> >>>Which begs the question... how do you get *rid* of >>>one? > > Why get rid of it? > > Paint it, hang it on your wall and call it art. > > Fill it up with sand and it's a sandbox for the kids. > > In the same vain fill it up with water and it's a wading pool. ... more ideas A lot of kayak shops use old kayaks (often with additional holes drilled into them) in for their signage. Donate it to a local shop for that purpose. I believe that Walden builds all their kayaks with recycled plastic. I don't know how one would get an old kayak to them for recycling though. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Also, I'm sure there are many drinking establishments that would take it >off your hands to add to the decor. > Indeed! --My old Hahn C-1, after having gone through a few later owners, is now nailed to the wall of a bar in Wallingford, NJ. Joe P. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I just bought my youngest daughter a plastic sit on top by Wilderness - it's the Ripper. We really liked the finish of the Wilderness plastic over the Ocean ones or others. It seems like a "slicker" finished plastic with a hardy look to it. Not sure how it will fare, but I'm hoping it will be more sun resilient than the other brands. As for used kayaks, how about this little fixer-upper drug-runner (if it sells, link may be dead): http://victoria.craigslist.org/boa/377206213.html Doug Lloyd No affiliation with above products/services > I have been cutting sheets of ABS plastic for a > non-kayak related project, and its relatively easy to > do. Plastic is harder than wood but it is softer than > metal. A fine toothed blade in a table saw gives > clean cuts. You need to go a little slower then > plywood, but otherwise it cuts the same way. > > In the case of a kayak that is going for garbage, I > think my approach would be to cut it up with a > sawzall. The cuts will be a little bit crude, but > its easy to do. A sawzall has enough power to cut up > autobody pannels, so a plastic kayak should be no > problem at all. > > I personally live on a busy city street. If I were to > put the kayak at the side of the road with a note that > says "Free" I'm sure that somebody would take it. I > bet it would disappear within 24 hours. Its amazing > what people will scavenge. > > I have seen a few boats listed on craigslist.org that > are apparently in "needs work" condition. These boats > really are useless, but maybe someone will buy with > the intention of repairing it. Price it low and > somebody will think they are getting a deal. > > Here is one more "creative" idea. Fill it with candy, > then hang it from the ceiling like in pinyata. Give > some kids base ball bats and tell them to have fun. > :) > > Derek *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Jul 28, 2007, at 5:33 PM, Jackie Myers wrote: > Which begs the question... how do you get *rid* of one? > > Has anyone taken a chainsaw to a rotomolded kayak? I could use my > truck tires but their new. Where I live, the recycling center will take them. Marcia Tauber *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
How long should a well-cared-for plastic boat last before it is functionally unsafe for use? What is a reasonable lifespan expectation? Derek I have a Perception Sabre, an old school whitewater boat, that I bought new in 1985. I have always stored it in my garage and always tie it to the roof rack rightside up to protect, as much as possible, the hull from the sun. I still use the boat and it still floats. Jim Tibensky *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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