I see Tim Ingram has posted his formerly self-published (but virtually unknown) book online now with a 2006 copyright and updates. Among other things he has published copyrighted Paddlewise posts online in the chapter below. Also in this chapter I discover I have another first I can add to my Vitae. I'm apparently about the most prolific mass murderer on the planet (outside the realm of politicians and world leaders anyway). Last I heard, a few years ago, was that Tim was being treated for his mental illness and we weren't supposed to make fun of him anymore. The doctors and psychiatrists were probably discovered to be in the pay of the worldwide Kayak and Canoe murder for profit conspiracy that I'm a hit man for. http://www.canoekayaksafety.com/chapterfour.html I should probably sue him for libel. Who knows, maybe he has inherited a fortune or something like that. I'm sure our conspiracy against him has prevented him from getting his just riches from his fool-proof sponsons so I probably can't collect much there. Matt Broze www.marinerkayaks.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Serves you right for going home in a huff. ;) If you'd used the sp****ns, I guess you would have left in a huff'n'puff? ("There were stories about Matt Broze "self proclaimed inventor of the paddle float" going home in a huff, after the "sponson endorsement". " Ingram, 2006) Matt Broze wrote: > Also in this chapter I discover I have another first I can add to my > Vitae. I'm apparently about the most prolific mass murderer on the planet > (outside the realm of politicians and world leaders anyway). -- Steve Cramer Athens, GA http://www.savvypaddler.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Where can I get one of these "huffs" that Matt went home in? I've Googled all over but no luck. The mfgr must be no longer in business. Just my luck. Craig Jungers Royal City, WA On 10/1/07, Steve Cramer <cramersec_at_charter.net> wrote: > > Serves you right for going home in a huff. ;) > > If you'd used the sp****ns, I guess you would have left in a huff'n'puff? > > ("There were stories about Matt Broze "self proclaimed inventor of the > paddle float" going home in a huff, after the "sponson endorsement". " > Ingram, 2006) > > Matt Broze wrote: > > Also in this chapter I discover I have another first I can add to my > > Vitae. I'm apparently about the most prolific mass murderer on the > planet > > (outside the realm of politicians and world leaders anyway). *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Please remove all old content that is not pertinent to your reply including old headers and footers. It's list policy.... this post was modified to meet policy] "Huffs" are available everywhere, and in fact seem to be in very common supply on the Internet. Most people make their own, though - I don't think they're for sale much. I'm sure you'd have no trouble making one. On 10/1/07, Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com> wrote: > Where can I get one of these "huffs" that Matt went home in? I've Googled > all over but no luck. The mfgr must be no longer in business. Just my luck. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: "Matt Broze" >I see Tim Ingram has posted his formerly self-published > Matt, After read just a few paragraphs of Tim's book I have come to the following conclusions If I were not a sea kayaker I would conclude: Being self published means no publisher would touch it with a ten foot pole This guy is on a rant He is upset that no one is buying his product He is myopic in his opinions If I listened to the opinion of those he slanders I would probably agree with them Using agencies such a Homeland Security and the Coast Guard makes me suspect he is into conspiracy theories. (The government is trying to hide the fact that UFO's use sponsons!) Being a seakayaker I want to thank Matt for "inventing the paddle float rescue". I carry a paddle float just incase and I teach it in my classes. If that makes me evil in Tim's eyes then I guess I am in good company. Just laugh this guy off, Matt, he isn't worth getting "in a huff" about. (Not that I believe you "walked off in a huff"unless The Huff is a new kayak and you paddled off in it.) take care Bob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
-----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Bob Carter This guy is on a rant. He is upset that no one is buying his product He is myopic in his opinions ------------------------------------------------ I own a pair of sponsons. I bought them before I ever heard of all the controversy Tim has stirred up. I've never used them other than practice, but they stay in my hatch in case of some catastrophic failure of my boat or me. They seem a well made product. For a solo paddler, I think they're a reasonable thing to have for emergencies. However, I have used my paddle float quite often in real situations. It's much easier to deploy in various configurations to get you back in your boat quick. I used it in trying to learn how to roll and always carry it in my cockpit. It is sad that Tim's attacks and unreasonable attitude probably keep people from being interested in a product that has it's place on the water. A paddle float is not a panacea that will keep everyone alive who ventures out on the water without the proper skills and training, but neither are sponsons. I felt having sponsons to back up my paddle float was a wise decision, but don't expect either to save me from all the situations I might find myself in. In practice, I did not find sponsons to provide adequate floatation to make reentry a simple act and would expect to back them up with my paddle float if I ever needed to use them. Ultimately you need to know your abilities and limitations and act accordingly. Attacking anyone who tries to make kayaking a safer experience is a wasted effort. Mark Sanders www.sandmarks.net *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mark. Well put. I will be the first to admit that I have never tried sponsons. My comments were more about how Mr. sponson presents himself and his product. Slaming and putting down another person inorder to sell your product doesn't set well with me. Maybe that is why american politics often turns my stomac. My advice is to build your skills rather than depending on floats, sponsons, divine intervention or whatever. Bob > -----Original Message----- > On Behalf Of Bob Carter > This guy is on a rant. He is upset that no one is buying his product > He is myopic in his opinions For a solo paddler, I think they're a > reasonable thing to have for emergencies. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Bob Carter wrote: > Mark. > Well put. I will be the first to admit that I have never tried sp*nsons. Yahaddabethere to fully appreciate how awful this was. There was no humor in it at all. No fun. No taste. Nothing good came of it. It is painful to recall it. It boggles me, most of a decade later, that this subject returns. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Look on the bright side. Your new designation should at least get you a visit and photo-op with an adoring Sean Penn. -----Original Message----- Behalf Of Matt Broze Subject: [Paddlewise] spnonsonman 2006 Also in this chapter I discover I have another first I can add to my Vitae. I'm apparently about the most prolific mass murderer on the planet (outside the realm of politicians and world leaders anyway). *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In his rant Tim Ingram wrote: "I have children." I guess Darwin must have been out learning to roll at the time and missed that event! Cheers JKA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
A well-timed and executed roll just might be considered divine intervention, at least once and awhile for me anyway. :-) > Mark. > Well put. I will be the first to admit that I have never tried sponsons. > My comments were more about how Mr. sponson presents himself and his > product. Slaming and putting down another person inorder to sell your > product doesn't set well with me. Maybe that is why american politics > often turns my stomac. > My advice is to build your skills rather than depending on floats, > sponsons, divine intervention or whatever. > > Bob > > >> -----Original Message----- >> On Behalf Of Bob Carter >> This guy is on a rant. He is upset that no one is buying his product >> He is myopic in his opinions > For a solo paddler, I think they're a >> reasonable thing to have for emergencies. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sep 30, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Matt Broze wrote: > I see Tim Ingram has posted his formerly self-published (but virtually > unknown) book online now Given the "virtually unknown" status of Tim's treatise I would just ignore it. Doing anything else would just provide more grist for Tim's mill, would not accomplish anything useful for you, and would further complicate life for Tim's family. Some small number of people will undoubtedly read it and some fraction of those may take his ranting seriously, some of those may actually wade down to chapter four, and one guy may actually recognize your name. Do you really care what that guy thinks? Nick Schade Guillemot Kayaks 824 Thompson St Glastonbury, CT 06033 USA Ph/Fx: (860) 659-8847 http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Lest anyone should forget, previous (sane and sensible) discussions on the subject are archived under http://www.paddlewise.net/topics/boatequip/sponson.html I perused Mr. Ingram's patents briefly. I cannot fathom why patents were granted given the existing prior art -- and I'm not referring to what is listed as prior art in the patent itself! Ralph Hoehn (having commercial affiliations with Pouchboats and Pakboats) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:36:29 -0700, "Matt Broze" <marinerkayaks_at_msn.com> said: > I see Tim Ingram has posted his formerly self-published (but virtually > unknown) book online now with a 2006 copyright and updates. > I should probably sue him for libel. Who knows, maybe he has inherited a > fortune or something like that. I'm sure our conspiracy against him has > prevented him from getting his just riches from his fool-proof sponsons > so I probably can't collect much there. According to his arrest report which he included in Appendix 4 he's retired.... The RCMP and OPP appear to have had him arrested for his persistent communications with regard to sponson safety. Kirk *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Oh good grief, it's like a bad rash that just won't go away. On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 07:36:29PM -0700, Matt Broze wrote: > I see Tim Ingram has posted his formerly self-published (but virtually > unknown) book online now with a 2006 copyright and updates. Among other > things he has published copyrighted Paddlewise posts online in the chapter > below. Also in this chapter I discover I have another first I can add to my > Vitae. I'm apparently about the most prolific mass murderer on the planet > (outside the realm of politicians and world leaders anyway). Clearly, you must work harder if you want to rise above the rest. ;-) In order to help you out, I spidered the entire site and fed it to an improvised concordance script (which almost certainly undercounted) and then judiciously selected some of the entries for your...uh...something or other. So here's the list sorted by repitition count: (Oh, before that: anyone who's pressed for time could probably just scan this list instead of reading the site.) 1079 sponsons 1078 deaths 988 victims 719 death 530 murder 404 bush 402 deadly 400 dead 398 criminal 396 die 391 police 363 lives 308 scam 285 innocent 266 murders 263 sponson 243 died 222 war 222 torture 200 military 195 scandal 178 deliberately 170 agonizing 166 jewish 158 kill 157 propaganda 154 crimes 134 churchill 115 murderers 110 cruel 105 killing 103 politicians 100 homeland 99 tragedy 97 fraudulent 81 tortured 76 suffering 75 torturing 70 negligence 68 murdering 68 horrible 66 sponsonguy 63 criminals 62 misleading 62 lie 60 kills 59 sadistic 57 terrorist 45 endangerment 42 holocaust 42 enron 42 conspiracy 40 cover-up 39 remorse 39 afghanistan 38 manslaughter 38 hitler 37 murderous 34 corrupt 31 criminally 30 freedoms 30 cult 29 crazy 28 terrorists 26 negligent 26 nazis 26 murderer 26 blood 25 eichmann 25 conviction 25 cheney 24 tortures 21 sadistically 21 osama 21 libel 21 auschwitz 20 despicable 18 wiesenthal 18 prisonplanet 18 non-jewish 18 cruelly 16 profiteers 16 illegally 15 wanton 15 recklessly 15 perpetrated 15 jews 14 vietnam 13 ruthless 13 insane 13 criminality 12 jewsagainstzionism 12 halliburton 11 irrational 11 horrendous ---Rsk *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 10/1/07, Rich Kulawiec <rsk_at_rockandwater.net> wrote: > > > ..... In order to help you out, I spidered the entire site .... Thanks, Rich. That was a work of art in itself. Much better than quoting it and more revealing than reading it. Craig Jungers Royal City, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Thursday 04 October 2007 16:46, Jim wrote: > I think we all become legends > in our own mind (maybe I should only speak for myself) but some people's > brakes don't work as well as their gas pedals. Indeed true! All can be brave behind a keyboard. It could be worse, I guess .... Remember that thousands have written, acted and/or taken part in fictional murders, in films, books, and plays. Very few of them have turned into real ones! Tord *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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