Any general consensus on the life of a charge on NiMH batteries? I mean, if I charge them and leave them sitting around without using them, how long before the charge degrades to a point they need to be recharged. Inquiring minds want to know! www.SandMarks.net *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Any general consensus on the life of a charge on NiMH batteries? I mean, if > I charge them and leave them sitting around without using them, how long > before the charge degrades to a point they need to be recharged. Inquiring > minds want to know! > > www.SandMarks.net I've had quite bad results with both alkaline and NiMH rechargeables. They seem to go flat in a very short time. Days, in some cases. But when I researched the issue -- some time ago now -- the concensus of opinion seemed to be that they should hold their charge quite a bit longer than mine were doing. One suggestion was that my charging unit -- a relatively cheap unit that I bought at the camera shop where I bought my digital Canon camera -- wasn't doing a proper job of charging. I've been meaning to try to find one of the chargers that I've seen recommended on some of the digital camera review sites, to see if that improves the situation any. But it keeps drifting down near the bottom of my "to-do" list. <sigh> -- Darryl *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Dec 5, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Darryl wrote: > I've been meaning to try to find one of the chargers that I've seen > recommended on some of the digital camera review sites, to see if > that improves the situation any. But it keeps drifting down near the > bottom of my "to-do" list. <sigh> > I've had very good experience with Maha Powerex AA batteries from <http://thomasdistributing.com/ > The ones I'm using are Powerex 2700 mah, and usually last thru' about 200 pictures on my Minolta Dimage 7 camera. Sitting on the shelf/in the drawer they need to be recharged after a couple of months. Maha has new NMh battery line called imedion which has very low self discharge and comes charged up. They claim that after a year the a fully charged battery will retain 85% charge. The con is that they only have 800 mah AA batteries at this time. My charger that I use now is a Maha MH-C401FS which has 4 independant charging circuits and does AA and AAA batteries from 1 to 4 at a time, sizes can be mixed. Fair winds and happy bytes, Dave Flory, Flower Mound, TX, U.S.A. -- Speak softly, study Aikido, & you won't need to carry a big stick! See my photos _at_ <http://homepage.mac.com/dflory> *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I've been using them for about a year -- AA cells mostly for digital cameras. I'm not thrilled. I estimate about 2-3 months and I have to recharge if they're just sitting on the shelf. Otherwise very short life in the camera. What I don't have is a good way to measure this. Voltage drop over time is not that large, though it seems likely ability to supply current would be a better measure. Anyone have any thoughts about this? Maybe look at voltage drop for, say, 10% of rated maH... For crucial situations I now always carry Li cells for backup. Expensive, but it works. Joe P. -----Original Message----- >From: Mark Sanders <sandmarks_at_ca.rr.com> >Any general consensus on the life of a charge on NiMH batteries? I mean, if >I charge them and leave them sitting around without using them, how long >before the charge degrades to a point they need to be recharged. Inquiring >minds want to know! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
NiMH are currently the best "type" of battery available. In another lifetime I sold cellular phones and we had the first generation of batteries to power them. I watched the market develop from the old alkaline to hydride to the now Nickle Metal Hydride that are still in use today. They last a lot longer and are better batteries but the old rules about using batteries still apply. Only let the battery stay in the charger for the period that it takes to charge it fully. Do not sit it in the charger indefinitely thinking that it will be ready to go when you are. What you are doing is burning it up. Think of a water kettle placed on the stove. You turn the heat on and eventually you will boil the water out of the kettle. Heat on low, high, does not matter, that kettle will go dry! Same thing with a battery. Also, the best thing to do is to charge the battery, and then use it up completely. And I mean use it up totally. Turn whatever the device is on and leave it on till the battery dies. Don't go using it for a while and then charging it back up again. This "topping it off" constantly is just the same as putting it back on the stove. Your going to boil it out sooner. Turn it on, leave it on, recharge it for the period it takes to complete a full charge. If you charge it and sit it on the shelf it will retain the charge for a period of time, figure a 20 percent discharge rate a week. But Murphy's Law states that when you need it, it will be near the end of it's discharge cycle and fail on you when you need it the most. And counting on using them in this manner is setting yourself up for a failure. I charge my units up, use them, and then make sure they are depleated and then charge them up prior to use again. If this is going to go over a long period between usage, I do it about twice a month to keep things active in them. My units last for quite a while because I do this. Also know that batteries have a life cycle of their own. Two or three years out and they are going to die of old age no matter how well they are used. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Any general consensus on the life of a charge on NiMH batteries? I mean, if > I charge them and leave them sitting around without using them, how long > before the charge degrades to a point they need to be recharged. Inquiring > minds want to know! 1st question: It depends on how low current your unit can take, and still be functional. NiMH are reportedly better than alcaline - in charge retaining time as well. I have a 4AA submersible Princeton Tech LED flashlight, with alcaline rechargeables. It sits in my daypack all the time, just in case, and LED still produces a usable amount of light after several months, sometimes after a year, without recharge. But this is only because it can take a very low current. Other LEDs, not to mention GPS, wouldn't function at all with these AA unless recharged. 2nd question: Very good professional advice from Blackey here. You should NOT recharge them when the charge degrades to a certain amount, - but only after you've made sure that they are completely discharged. Turn it on and leave until it stops working. I prefer carrying a 4-pack of long-life non-rechargeables as a backup, because rechargeables are complicated things with those cyclical processes going inside, and temperature affects their life too, and you may suddenly find that newly replaced NiMH (charged a few days ago) stopped working after a very short period, much sooner than you anticipated. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Any general consensus on the life of a charge on NiMH batteries? Mine are only lasting about a week, but I believe that I'm having either battery or charger issues. Therefore, I'm in the market for a quality charger, as opposed to the Energizer charger I got with a package of about 8 batteries. So, in addition to Marks question, does anyone have recommendations on quality chargers and brands of batteries? Rick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I think an ideal battery charger would first discharge the battery (or batteries) almost completely (under controlled load) before starting the charging cycle. Ham radio operators have designed several such chargers (many of them back in the NiCad days) and those designs should be out there somewhere. The disadvantage to a "good" battery charger is that it's probably not a "fast" battery charger and that's what seems to be driving the market. The discharge cycle would take extra time and probably the best charge cycle (which would be in stages in order to control heat buildup) would also take extra time. I like the idea of taking along good Alkaline batteries. Is Michael Daly still around? He always seems to have a good handle on these sorts of questions. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA On Dec 5, 2007 8:08 AM, <Rick.Sylvia_at_ferguson.com> wrote: > > Any general consensus on the life of a charge on NiMH batteries? > > Mine are only lasting about a week, but I believe that I'm having either > battery or charger issues. Therefore, I'm in the market for a quality > charger, as opposed to the Energizer charger I got with a package of > about 8 batteries. > > So, in addition to Marks question, does anyone have recommendations on > quality chargers and brands of batteries? > > Rick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
My posts are delayed as always, but when this does get through to the list: I have a charger from Radio Shack (The Source in Canada) that discharges batteries first (called "conditioning"), then charges quickly. Some older NiCads that I have are charged in very few minutes, showing how much their capacity has declined with age. GaryJ Craig Jungers wrote: > I think an ideal battery charger would first discharge the battery (or > batteries) almost completely (under controlled load) before starting the > charging cycle. Ham radio operators have designed several such chargers > (many of them back in the NiCad days) and those designs should be out there > somewhere. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> > Any general consensus on the life of a charge on NiMH batteries? > > Mine are only lasting about a week, but I believe that I'm having either > battery or charger issues. Therefore, I'm in the market for a quality > charger, as opposed to the Energizer charger I got with a package of > about 8 batteries. > > So, in addition to Marks question, does anyone have recommendations on > quality chargers and brands of batteries? > > Rick The Maha units that Eric mentions in his post are the ones I've seen recommended. I notice on the web pages for the Thomas Battery site that they also have some of the batteries that were recommended as well: the Powerx and the Sanyos. I may have to bite the bullet and order one of these chargers online, as they don't seem to be available at local stores (the ones I frequent). -- Darryl *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I've used Maha NiMH AA batteries and chargers for years, in ham radio and photography. They are good products and the company stands behind them. I had one charger die after several years, and they replaced it immediately. I have a 401 smart charger for AA's and a 777Plus charger which will charge almost anything. A big advantage of NiMH's over NiCads is that they don't suffer from memory effect, so you don't have to fully discharge them before charging. Bruce Grubbs Flagstaff, AZ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> So, in addition to Marks question, does anyone have recommendations on > quality chargers and brands of batteries? > Did a bit of research on rechargeables before switching over several years ago, and ended up purchasing this charger: http://www.thomas-distributing.com/maha-powerex-mh-c204w-nimh-battery-charger.htm based largely on the review here: http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/C204W/C204WA.HTM I've been happy with the charger over the last two years, and have not yet used the conditioning feature, though I probably should on some of my older batteries. Looks like there is also a newer maha charger - which will even show the actual capacity of the batteries - amongst other bells and whistles: http://www.thomas-distributing.com/maha-mh-c9000-battery-charger.php no affiliation with any of the sites, just a satisfied customer Erik S *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Thursday 06 December 2007 13:18, Mark wrote: > Any general consensus on the life of a charge on NiMH batteries? I mean, > if I charge them and leave them sitting around without using them, how > long before the charge degrades to a point they need to be recharged. > Inquiring minds want to know! All types of batteries discharge over time, and very rarely are they any good after eight years (the hydrogen ions - essential in all kinds of batteries - have by then all disappeared from the batteries)! Having used electrically powered models for decades I have used a lot - from Sealed Lead Acid, to LiPos! NiMHs are the worst I know of - LiPos are the best (years before they totally discharged)! Lead-acid and NiCads somewhere in between! On the other hand, LiPos are the most difficult to charge safely (you need a charger AND an equalizer), and slowly but sure loses capacity (depending on how many times you charge them). But LiPos have almost no selfdischarge, thus are excellent for electric bilge pumps, and other safety equipment! If you short them they explode and set fire to their surroundings - thus mechanically sensitive! So I use LiPos in my model aircraft, and SLA (sealed lead acid battery) in the kayak - if the plane goes up in smoke, so be it, but I sure don't want the kayak catch fire - ever - and even less when anyone is in it! Tord PS For things I use often I use NiMHs, like my electric tools! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I have a 401 smart charger for AA's and a 777Plus charger which will > charge almost anything. A big advantage of NiMH's over NiCads is that they > don't suffer from memory effect, so you don't have to fully discharge them > before charging. NiMH seems to be what everybody's buying now (and Li for longer charge life). But I didn't know that NiMH are free of he "memory problems" and therefore don't need to be discharged. Is it really so? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
This is the charger I've used for years (over a decade), recommended by pros - and as yet no pack has died on me: http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=2186 A bit expensive, but very good, US-made, and foolproof! Charges anything from 4 AAs to eight (if my memory serves me right) and while the plugs a dedicated for RC equipment they can easily be replaced by others! Mine is this original version, so it can't handle anything but NiCads and NiMHs, but there are others! And as you can see - nothing to set! Here's a link to the manufacturer, Peak Industries: http://www.siriuselectronics.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=157 And a link to their full range: http://www.siriuselectronics.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1 A Four cell LiPo (14.8V) could be useful in driving a kayak's bilge pump, but as you need access to the battery while charging (remember the Equalizer, that I mentioned in an earlier mail) it isn't very practical - and the fire hazard is real, say if the pump's motor seizes, due to FOD (that is, something get's jammed in the pump), effectively shorting the battery (fuse is a possible remedie)! Tord PS I have no link to the Peak Electronics company (ex-Sirius Electronics). *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> This is the charger I've used for years (over a decade), recommended by > pros - and as yet no pack has died on me: > > http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=2186 > > A bit expensive, but very good, US-made, and foolproof! Tord, it is really expensive, but I'm worried about their claim of 10 minutes time. Maha C401 charger, referred to in another post, has 2 modes - gentle and fast (the latter with higher current apparently), and they recommend using "fast" only when you are really in hurry, because it shortens battery life by some undetermined amount of time. And this "fast" mode of Maha is still 100 minutes, - not 10. (Gentle mode takes 5 hours). It appears that Maha and their Powerex batteries are quite at the cutting edge, so they must be at least partially right. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sunday 09 December 2007 08:30, alex wrote: > > This is the charger I've used for years (over a decade), recommended > > by pros - and as yet no pack has died on me: > > > > http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=2186 > > > > A bit expensive, but very good, US-made, and foolproof! > > Tord, it is really expensive, but I'm worried about their claim of 10 > minutes time. Maha C401 charger, referred to in another post, has 2 > modes - gentle and fast (the latter with higher current apparently), and > they recommend using "fast" only when you are really in hurry, because > it shortens battery life by some undetermined amount of time. And this > "fast" mode of Maha is still 100 minutes, - not 10. (Gentle mode takes 5 > hours). It appears that Maha and their Powerex batteries are quite at > the cutting edge, so they must be at least partially right. I definitely think this ten minute claim can't be sponsored by Peak - I usually have my small packs connected overnight :-)! Can't claim the Sirius is a really fast charger (even if it is a fast charger, very different to trickle chargers, like the wall chargers we have a lot of today), like some of those available today, but it sure gets the most out of your batteries! Here's Peak's text: http://www.siriuselectronics.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=10 Nothing about 10 minutes here :-)! NSP is entirely to blame! Tord *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Friday 07 December 2007 04:39, Alex wrote: > NiMH seems to be what everybody's buying now (and Li for longer charge > life). But I didn't know that NiMH are free of he "memory problems" and > therefore don't need to be discharged. Is it really so? In essence, yes! But occasionally you should cycle them, as they have a tiny memory effect! Best FAQ, Red's battery clinic: http://www.rcbatteryclinic.com/ As Red is an elederly man, the site is not fully up to date, but you can believe what you read here - no doubt about it! Tord *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have had problems with Energizer NiMH ones losing their charge, but not with Eneloop ones. The sanyo eneloop ones have a better reputation. I also carry Li cells as backup. At 07:47 AM 05/12/2007, you wrote: >Any general consensus on the life of a charge on NiMH batteries? I mean, if >I charge them and leave them sitting around without using them, how long >before the charge degrades to a point they need to be recharged. Inquiring >minds want to know! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
The Sanyo Eneloop low-self discharge NiMH batteries appear to be the same technology as the Maha Imedion and the GP ReCykos. The Thomas Distributing Web site even mistakenly refers to the Maha Imedion as "eneloop" from time to time. For all I know, they are all made by the same factory. Though the Eneloop batteries do indeed have lower capacities than the older NiMH batteries, their low rate of self-discharge apparently more than makes up for it, depending on how long they sit around before you use them. For an interesting independent test of the new Eneloop batteries, see http://www.stefanv.com/electronics/sanyo_eneloop.html. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Supposedly 1% per day. Like others I find them to go down (at least from useful levels) in 2 months (60 days = 60%??) That said, if they are in my "charged" pile and ready to go, they never stay there more than a few weeks before they go out for something. As for voltage drop, one thing with the rechargeables is thattheir discharge curve is very flat. So you get little warning that they are low, and then they are flat flat flat. Unlike regular alkalines which drop sharply, then plateau, then tail off slowly. I find that NiMH are so cheap these days that I just carry spares and let it go at that. GaryJ Mark Sanders wrote: > Any general consensus on the life of a charge on NiMH batteries? I mean, if > I charge them and leave them sitting around without using them, how long > before the charge degrades to a point they need to be recharged. Inquiring > minds want to know! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sunday 09 December 2007 13:11, Craig wrote: > I think an ideal battery charger would first discharge the battery (or > batteries) almost completely (under controlled load) before starting the > charging cycle. Ham radio operators have designed several such chargers > (many of them back in the NiCad days) and those designs should be out > there somewhere. The best way handling NiMHs isn't the best way of handling NiCads, as mr Isodor Buchmann at BatteryUniversity.com. He puts it like this: * Do not leave a nickel-based battery in a charger for more than a few days, even on trickle charge. * Exercise nickel-cadmium every 1 to 2 months and nickel-metal-hydride every 3 months. Running the battery down in the equipment may do this also. MY comment: And then he continues like this - ATTENTION EVERYONE: * Do not discharge the battery before each recharge. This puts undue stress on the battery. * Avoid getting the battery too hot during charge. The temperature should only rise for a short moment at full charge, then cool off. Modern fast chargers contains fans, some have temperature sensors, some advanced types of battery packs have integral temperture sensors and voltage monitoring, built-in! More info at BatteryUniversity.com! A good comparion of the various types available Buchmann gives us as well - there are further types availble today, but those are not very common, yet: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-3.htm Tord > > The disadvantage to a "good" battery charger is that it's probably not a > "fast" battery charger and that's what seems to be driving the market. > The discharge cycle would take extra time and probably the best charge > cycle (which would be in stages in order to control heat buildup) would > also take extra time. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I definitely think this ten minute claim can't be sponsored by Peak - > I usually have my small packs connected overnight :-)! You're right - sorry. The seller's info is a bit misleading. It says "In about 10 minutes this charger gives you MORE CHARGE with LESS HEAT than your overnight wall-wart charger!" (quoted as is, with caps). When reading it carefully, - it doesn't say that it charges the battery in 10 minutes. What a pitch... I've seen el-cheapo chargers with currents 50mA, i.e. 24 hours to charge a 1200 mAH battery. Of course, Sirius provides more charge in less time than $2 chinese toys... *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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