First of all, - I'm carrying it only as an emergency measure - not for communication with fellow kayakers. Plus- for weather reports. So it sits on the PFD, leaving its nest only ashore, to listen to WX channels. I've made a designated pocket for it, with Velcro flap, just below the shoulder strap, with antenna bent under short piece of webbing sewn to the shoulder strap. I can listen to WX channels through the pocket fabric if I wish, but on crossings less than 2-3 hrs there is no need usually. But I wonder, what could be a better way of attachment allowing actually using it for distress Tx on water or in water. I can take it out of that small pocket and put it back single-handedly. But it would be nice to be able to talk without removing it. Talking through the fabric pocket - hm... I guess I could, but the clarity won't the same. I could use the supplied belt clip (sewing a lateral piece of webbing to the shoulder strap), but I don't like it - it's plastic, and short screws look flimsy, and if I remove it from the shoulder, this clip requires 2 hands to attach it back again, so I would have to either use another hand, or shove it into the lower PFD pocket. I've been thinking of some cradle - like those GPS mounts for cars and bikes. there was somebody that made something of that kind, - but not for Icom M1V. Or may be I'll just cut the hole in that upper chest pocket around the microphone - this should do. Any suggestions? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I once picked up a free Garmin GPS car cradle. The only problem was I had a Magellan at the time! A little Velcro solved the problem. It can cure just about everything. -----Original Message----- I've been thinking of some cradle - like those GPS mounts for cars and bikes. there was somebody that made something of that kind, - but not for Icom M1V. Any suggestions? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:03 PM, alex <al.m_at_3web.net> wrote: > First of all, - I'm carrying it only as an emergency measure - not for > communication with fellow kayakers. Plus- for weather reports. So it sits > on the PFD, leaving its nest only ashore, to listen to WX channels <snip> > > But I wonder, what could be a better way of attachment allowing actually > using it for distress Tx on water or in water. I can take it out of that > small pocket and put it back single-handedly. But it would be nice to be > able to talk without removing it. Talking through the fabric pocket - > hm... > I guess I could, but the clarity won't the same. That's an interesting question. I'm in the same boat as you, Alex, and I figured I'd just use the radio in its PFD pocket and talk through the mesh. I never actually gave much thought to whether that mesh might interfere with the quality of the communications. It probably doesn't make much difference since I don't think any other method is an option and I don't think the mesh will degrade voice quality but it would be nice to know. As soon as the VHF on the muthah-ship is installed and working I'll test it to see whether it makes much difference inside the pocket or outside. We normally use FRS radios to chat within a paddle group and I've never actually used my VHF for anything other than WX radio so I actually have no idea what the quality of the voice transmissions of the unit is anyway. If you decide to do a test on yours let us know; otherwise, I will post something in a couple weeks. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
alex wrote: > But I wonder, what could be a better way of attachment allowing actually > using it for distress Tx on water or in water. [snip] it would be nice > to be able to talk without removing it. > Any suggestions? Alex, does it have provision for an external microphone? My ICOM does (an M88). That might allow you to clip a mike near your neck at the top of the PFD, like what the cops around here do. You would definitely stand out amongst other paddlers with a deal like that! And, little cut and paste needed on the PFD. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Alex, does it have provision for an external microphone? My ICOM does (an > M88). That might allow you to clip a mike near your neck at the top of the > PFD, like what the cops around here do. You would definitely stand out > amongst other paddlers with a deal like that! > > And, little cut and paste needed on the PFD. It does have a microphone/speaker port under the rubber cap, but I think I'll pass. External mike looks cool indeed. Convenient on dry land and when you have to listen all the time and respond quickly (I've had a chance to try it in another situation). But this mike isn't much smaller than some small radios, and the cable will be on my chest, and I am not sure of water protection of this port, not to mention the possibility of jerking it off the port incidentally. And it requires activating the radio first, if I'm correct (then. the radio has to be on, all the time), so when the sh-t hits the fan, I would anyway have to pull the radio out of the pocket first, adjust the volume and make sure it is on Ch 16. I'll probably modify the upper chest pocket that I've made, will add some mesh in front - right now it's a regular thin nylon. And will check electronics sections of sports stores - may be will come across some nice cradle. The pocket isn't bad, actually - it protects the radio better than cradle. Important is making it with some stiff "bead", so it would keep its shape when empty. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
High Alex, We use the M87 (European version of M88). We have fastened the M87 high on the pfd's left side by adapting the belt clip to fit a standard attachment already on the vest so that it easily can be taken on and off and have the M87 secured with a leash. This brings the mike and loudspeaker close enough to the lips and the antenna as high up as possible. I have to reach over with my right arm to use the thumb for PTT meaning holding the paddle with one hand when transmitting but that can hardly be avoided. We have used this solution for a couple of years. We are looking at headsets: IC-Cobra for the M71 that complies with IPX8 but have no experience yet. Regards Jens Viggo Moesmand Denmark > Alex, does it have provision for an external microphone? My ICOM does (an > M88). That might allow you to clip a mike near your neck at the top of the > PFD, like what the cops around here do. You would definitely stand out > amongst other paddlers with a deal like that! > > And, little cut and paste needed on the PFD. ************************************************************************ *** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hello Jens, Are you adapting the belt clip to use one of the common PFD patches with four slots? This seems like an ingenious solution to the problem as it leaves the pockets free for other items. My VHF is an M32 with a detachable belt clip that exactly fits one of these patches which could simply be left on the PFD and the VHF detached from it for charging. The antenna is also somewhat higher with this arrangement. Thanks for the tip. :) I'm skeptical of speaker-microphone attachments even for dry-land use. My experience with them (we used them a lot on oil tankers) has not been positive. The cords have a tendency to stretch and could present an entanglement problem on a kayak. And I'm not sure how to keep salt water from affecting the connections. Plus it's another thing to find when gearing up. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Jens Viggo Moesmand <jensviggo_at_moesmand.dk> wrote: > High Alex, > > We use the M87 (European version of M88). We have fastened the M87 high > on the pfd's left side by adapting the belt clip to fit a standard > attachment already on the vest so that it easily can be taken on and off > and have the M87 secured with a leash. This brings the mike and > loudspeaker close enough to the lips and the antenna as high up as > possible. I have to reach over with my right arm to use the thumb for > PTT meaning holding the paddle with one hand when transmitting but that > can hardly be avoided. We have used this solution for a couple of years. > We are looking at headsets: IC-Cobra for the M71 that complies with IPX8 > but have no experience yet. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Craig Jungers wrote: > Hello Jens, > > Are you adapting the belt clip to use one of the common PFD patches with > four slots? This seems like an ingenious solution to the problem as it > leaves the pockets free for other items. My VHF is an M32 with a detachable > belt clip that exactly fits one of these patches which could simply be left > on the PFD and the VHF detached from it for charging. Craig, the M88 has a serious, weatherproof closure for the mike attachment. Best I've seen. Might be worth looking at if you like tht arrangement. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com> wrote: > > > Craig, the M88 has a serious, weatherproof closure for the mike > attachment. > Best I've seen. Might be worth looking at if you like tht arrangement. I am not a fan of speaker-microphone arrangements even if they're better than what we used 15 years ago on tankers. If I couldn't get the VHF into a position where I could just push the transmit button easily without dismounting it then I might rethink the situation. Also, you're much better off putting your VHF as high on the PFD as you can get it (elevation counts for VHF) and then it's right next to your ear anyway. My muthah-ship is making incredible progress. I mounted the anchor bow roller and the 20-lb Bruce on the bow today, installed the mounts for the LED port/starboard running lights (I'll look like a tanker at night I betcha), traced out a lot of wiring, checked the I/O up/down and the trim tabs (working) and a bunch of other things. I might actually have to start it up soon. Hope it floats. Can't expect much for $3500 including the trailer. LOL Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Dave, Isn't the issue here that the mike connections aren't covered by the weatherproof closure when trying to use a mike while paddling, thus are subject to corrosion? Bill Leonhardt Dave Kruger posted: > Craig, the M88 has a serious, weatherproof closure for the > mike attachment. > Best I've seen. Might be worth looking at if you like tht > arrangement. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> We use the M87 (European version of M88). We have fastened the M87 high > on the pfd's left side by adapting the belt clip to fit a standard > attachment already on the vest so that it easily can be taken on and off > and have the M87 secured with a leash. the entire I have this patch with four slots in a different place on my PFD, but I can move it to the shoulder. But when I tried to attach M1V with the belt clip to that patch, it was almost impossible. The battery of M1V is located below the belt clip, and bulging out by a few millimeters, so the belt clip is in a kind of "recess". And the gap between the end of the clip and the VHF body is very narrow. Did you cut the end of the clip off, to widen the gap? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hello Alex, The "hook" on the belt clip has been removed (the photo shows a sample with hook) and a little bit of shaping has been done to make it possible to press it into the patch. The vhf will fall off during roll, so a leash is imperativ. Jens Viggo (photos sent directly to Alex) I have this patch with four slots in a different place on my PFD, but I can move it to the shoulder. But when I tried to attach M1V with the belt clip to that patch, it was almost impossible. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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