This is only connected with kayaking via a tenuous thread. We plan on putting up a yurt on our new beach lot on Whidbey Island so we will have a place to stay and kayak over on the west side of the mountains. Rather than immediately install a septic system (which I don't much like anyway) we decided to put up an "out-tent" with either a porta-potti or a composting toilet. As luck would have it, I found a composting toilet for sale on (what else?) craigslist. It is a brand new display model (unused) but not in a box. After I had dropped off my Coaster in Bellingham for repairs I drove to Buckley, WA to get the toilet. (Don't ask me where it is... I have a dash-mounted GPS to take care of those details.) Since only my Kia Optima sedan has kayak racks I had to drive that car over the mtns. Now a composting toilet turns out to be somewhat compact but it still looks exactly like a toilet. The problem was where was I going to carry it in a sedan? I forgot to mention that I had picked up a used Raytheon 1200 radar system and scanner for the muthah-ship on... well, you can guess that part. So no room in the trunk. We ended up strapping the toilet into the passenger seat and I drove it 150 miles home on the freeway. I only wish I could have seen some of the looks the trucks glancing down into my passenger window must have given. I know that the neighbors here have been curious, to say the least. Just a taste of what you get when you dive into the kayaking lifestyle completely and utterly. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
<snip> > > Just a taste of what you get when you dive into the kayaking lifestyle > completely and utterly. > > > Craig Jungers > Moses Lake, WA Uh ... there's something about "dive" and "kayaking" that just doesn't go together, in my mind at least. <grin> I like to stay on top of the water. "Dive" connotes flooded forward storage area at least, possibly rear storage area flooded as well. Images of "Das Boot" come to mind. Dirty white turtle-neck sweaters, sweat and oil scented air, claustrophobic quarters, klaxon horns blaring.... Not my idea of good time at all. Maybe I could suggest "rolling" into the kayaking lifestyle? Just a thought... -- Darryl *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Darryl <Darryl.Johnson_at_sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > Uh ... there's something about "dive" and "kayaking" that just > doesn't go together, in my mind at least. <grin> > > I like to stay on top of the water. "Dive" connotes flooded forward > storage area at least, possibly rear storage area flooded as well. > Images of "Das Boot" come to mind. Dirty white turtle-neck sweaters, > sweat and oil scented air, claustrophobic quarters, klaxon horns > blaring.... Not my idea of good time at all. > > Maybe I could suggest "rolling" into the kayaking lifestyle? Ummm... plunge? Nope. Immerse? Huh uh. Jump? Well, maybe. Dump? At least it goes with toilets. :) Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Let's try and keep our heads here, OK? Steve Craig Jungers wrote: > Ummm... plunge? Nope. > > Immerse? Huh uh. > > Jump? Well, maybe. > > Dump? At least it goes with toilets. :) -- Steve Cramer Athens, GA http://www.savvypaddler.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Craig, I believe you have brilliantly invented the composting kayak. We'll need a test pilot for the prototype. How about Mark? He seems game. Brad Quoting Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu> wrote: > >> Craig: >> Could that composting toilet be strapped onto the back of a kayak? >> You could make millions, maybe billions. And save the planet from a >> gigantic brownout. >> >> This is an interesting question. I can see two major problems: > > 1) A composting toilet works by... um... composting the... um... stuff. As > long as the kayak remains upright (a situation many - but not all - of us > aspire to) the composting toilet should work just fine regardless of where > it is located. I am unsure of the effects of salt water intrusion in the > composting area, however. It's entirely possible that the salt would kill > the very organisms that do the dirty work, so to speak. > > B) The composting toilet I have is about the same height above the floor as > a toilet in a handicap stall. While the bio-mass of the toilet is carried > low (at the bottom of the toilet) the addition of a paddler up high could > very well disturb the natural balance of the kayak and result in an > inversion and resultant possible salt water intrusion (see above). > > There might be some appropriate design changes that would make this > ingenious idea (I can see why you're a college professor - although being a > math professor does detract somewhat) work. To wit: incorporating the > composting into the kayak itself. Since many kayaks already are > compartmented into handy... uh... compartments one could simply select the > compartment least used for gear and food and spread the compost along the > inside hull in that compartment to a depth of about 5 inches. The hatch > could then be used as a convenient perch. > > The best part about this arrangement (besides the obvious greening - or > maybe de-browning - of the world) is that if anyone notices the paddler > sitting atop the stern hatch and asks impertinent (or even pertinent) > questions, one might reasonably reply that he (or she) is practicing the > cowboy rescue. This would immediately divert any suspicion since every > paddler knows the importance of practicing self rescues. > > I'm willing to share in the patent with you. Any patent lawyers at that > college of yours? > > > Craig Jungers > Moses Lake, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Toyota complete with toilet on the Arctic ocean (45 seconds into the video): www.youtube.com/v/HEgjt3GUOKM&hl *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
That'll put a hitch in your getalong! -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Richard Culpeper Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kia Complete with Toilet Toyota complete with toilet on the Arctic ocean (45 seconds into the video): www.youtube.com/v/HEgjt3GUOKM&hl *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
This is one of the most entertaining videos I've ever seen. Drop what you're doing and watch this. You can vacuum the house later. Brad Quoting Richard Culpeper <culpeper_at_tbaytel.net>: > Toyota complete with toilet on the Arctic ocean (45 seconds into the video): > www.youtube.com/v/HEgjt3GUOKM&hl *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu> wrote: > Craig, I believe you have brilliantly invented the composting kayak. > We'll need a test pilot for the prototype. How about Mark? He seems game. > If you think he's gamey now just wait 'til we're a week into the test program. Oh, wait... you said "game". My bad. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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