I have to get some digital pictures for a SeaKayaker article I'm working on for Spring. I have a Sony digital but wife is anxious about me using it on the water. So, I'll spend my money ahead of time and get a good digital for kayaking that will be useful I'm sure for years to come. I wasn't feeling well during previous discussions and don't remember the recommendations from the list. I suspect that the Olympus or Pentax models are what was talked about. Fitting in with my new deck-fclean philosophy and downsized PFD gear, I need something compact and lightweight. Did I mention I was going lighter too. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Doug Lloyd (former festooned Nordkapp paddler) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I am on my second Pentax Optio. My first was the 10 and now I have the 30. I haven't used my 30 a whole lot, but I was impressed with the sturdiness of my 10 even though it died after about a year. In that time, it was dropped on more than one occasion and battered in the surf on numerous occasions. The new Olympus touts an impressive shock resistance, but I still went with the Pentax because it uses the cheaper SD cards and shoots video at 30fps, which I think even the new Olympusi don't. Also, I've read in the past that the shutter lag on the Olys is a bit obtrusive. That may not be such of a problem, as most of my better shots on my Pentax were taken with the camera set to a 2 sec time delay so I could get set up for the shot I wanted. I imagine it may be more of a Ford/Chevy debate, but I'm definitely a Pentax man! I look forward to what ever shots you come up with whichever camera you chose! Mark www.sandmarks.net -----Original Message----- Subject: [Paddlewise] Camera Recommendation I have to get some digital pictures for a SeaKayaker article I'm working on for Spring. I have a Sony digital but wife is anxious about me using it on the water. So, I'll spend my money ahead of time and get a good digital for kayaking that will be useful I'm sure for years to come. I wasn't feeling well during previous discussions and don't remember the recommendations from the list. I suspect that the Olympus or Pentax models are what was talked about. Fitting in with my new deck-fclean philosophy and downsized PFD gear, I need something compact and lightweight. Did I mention I was going lighter too. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Doug Lloyd (former festooned Nordkapp paddler) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I'm leaning toward the Pentax. I like your monopod. I intend to use the Scotty mount (the one that caps off) molded into the deck profile of my next kayak for various attachments (sail, etc). I've just now added another accessory I can consider. Send us links to your pics. I'll show you, mine when I get some. Can't let mark get all the glory. Hi Doug, I've been pleased enough with the Pentax WP and WPi to just upgrade to the Optio W30 (I skipped a couple of generations). The W30 is still more waterproofer yet - enough so that they recommend it for snorkeling, plus it's got interval shooting, a feature I hope to combine with my new deck monopod http://www.flickr.com/photos/kayakwriter/2348192737/ to get the elusive kayak-cleaving-though-oncoming-wave shot (usually, you put down the paddle to pick up the camera, lose your forward way, and it becomes the kayak-being-broached shot. Yet again.) Anyway, Pentax is about due to release whatever the next generation of Optio W will be, so if you hang tight, you may be able to score a killer close-out deal on the W30. It's small enough to slip into a pocket of your PFD, keeping your deck uncluttered. Cheers, Philip *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Philip, Nice set-up. Have you thought about using a quick-release fitting on the ball mount, which would make it easy to take off and use hand-held. I've got a plastic one made by Sima, which is strong enough to carry a compact camera. Cheers JKA -- John Kirk-Anderson Banks Peninsula NEW ZEALAND on 21/3/08 15:41, Doug Lloyd at douglloyd_at_shaw.ca wrote: > I like your monopod.> > Hi Doug, > > my new deck monopod > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/kayakwriter/2348192737/ > > Cheers, > > Philip *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi John, Thanks for the suggestion. I've googled and found pix of the Sima quick-release. Do I assume correctly it attaches to the tripod/monopod only, and doesn't require having a fixture permanently on the camera? (I ask 'cos the camera alone slides perfectly snuggly into a pocket on my PFD, but wouldn't if there were anything in the mounting hole.) Cheers, Philip -----Original Message----- From: John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_netaccess.co.nz> To: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>; kayakwriter_at_aim.com; PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net Sent: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:00 pm Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Camera Recommendation Hi Philip, Nice set-up. Have you thought about using a quick-release fitting on the ball mount, which would make it easy to take off and use hand-held. I've got a plastic one made by Sima, which is strong enough to carry a compact camera. Cheers JKA -- John Kirk-Anderson Banks Peninsula NEW ZEALAND *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Folks, It's time to upgrade my paddling camera from a Canon S50 in a waterproof housing. It's a great wee camera, but time and technology have moved on. I'm looking at the Canon G9 in a waterproof housing, and from the looks of them they're a good combination. Anyone used one, and if so what's the feedback? Cheers JKA -- John Kirk-Anderson Banks Peninsula NEW ZEALAND *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Re the Scotty deck mount: Both Mike J and I have the older mount, the one shown first on this page: http://www.scotty.com/marine/products/product/rodholders/mounts_flush.html# The rubber cap isn't wave or roll watertight, and the bottom is open. We've sealed ours with reamed out PVC plumbing end caps, but Scotty now makes a model that comes pre-sealed - the 344, the third item on that same page. I'll link to some same photos once I get them uploaded. They won't be in Mark's league, though - he's the master. BTY, what's the SK article on? Perhaps I have some existing photos that would work. Cheers, Philip -----Original Message----- From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> To: kayakwriter_at_aim.com; PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net Sent: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 7:41 pm Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Camera Recommendation I'm leaning toward the Pentax. I like your monopod. I intend to use the Scotty mount (the one that caps off) molded into the deck profile of my next kayak for various attachments (sail, etc). I've just now added another accessory I can consider. Send us links to your pics. I'll show you, mine when I get some. Can't let mark get all the glory. * *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
The 344 should be perfect. I'm wondering about a GPS mount-solution too. Atlantis Kayaks has a nice GPS holder molded into their foredecks on certain models, but the Scotty do-all mount idea has merit for multiple uses. I'm writing an article on kayaking around Victoria and area. Duane's done a couple in these series on So. Cal - his neck of the woods. I like the series in SeaKayaker and would like to contribute this way - counting it as a priveledge. If they like it and the pictures, that should cover the new camera and some extras as I re-gear (and re-boat). I've only just stopped working my Saturdays so hope to have a bit more time for writing. Thanks for the offer for pic though Philip Well, I'm all decompressed after a hectic week last week, so no weird humor now the weekend is moving along. :-) Doug From: kayakwriter_at_aim.com Re the Scotty deck mount: Both Mike J and I have the older mount, the one shown first on this page: http://www.scotty.com/marine/products/product/rodholders/mounts_flush.html# The rubber cap isn't wave or roll watertight, and the bottom is open. We've sealed ours with reamed out PVC plumbing end caps, but Scotty now makes a model that comes pre-sealed - the 344, the third item on that same page. I'll link to some same photos once I get them uploaded. They won't be in Mark's league, though - he's the master. BTY, what's the SK article on? Perhaps I have some existing photos that would work. Cheers, Philip *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug, I had a Pentax Optio I bought in 2006 and it worked well. Until, that is, it floated off on the Deschutes river. The second waterproof digital I have owned is the Olympus 770SW. It is also very nice. Some samples of photos are here: 2006 Pentax optio image: ? http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2529462370067748792zzKAAU ? 2007 Olympus Optio 770SW ? http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2577626470067748792cxkbxe ? http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2650009700067748792qMHzQL ? Cheers, Rob G I have to get some digital pictures for a SeaKayaker article I'm working on for Spring. I have a Sony digital but wife is anxious about me using it on the water. So, I'll spend my money ahead of time and get a good digital for kayaking that will be useful I'm sure for years to come. I wasn't feeling well during previous discussions and don't remember the recommendations from the list. I suspect that the Olympus or Pentax models are what was talked about. Fitting in with my new deck-fclean philosophy and downsized PFD gear, I need something compact and lightweight. Did I mention I was going lighter too. Any recommendations would be appreciated.? -----Original Message----- From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> To: paddlewise <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 7:01 pm Subject: [Paddlewise] Camera Recommendation I have to get some digital pictures for a SeaKayaker article I'm working on for Spring. I have a Sony digital but wife is anxious about me using it on the water. So, I'll spend my money ahead of time and get a good digital for kayaking that will be useful I'm sure for years to come. I wasn't feeling well during previous discussions and don't remember the recommendations from the list. I suspect that the Olympus or Pentax models are what was talked about. Fitting in with my new deck-fclean philosophy and downsized PFD gear, I need something compact and lightweight. Did I mention I was going lighter too. Any recommendations would be appreciated.? ? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug, It might be worthwhile to take a look at the Canon A570 IS and similar Canon IS cameras. Image stabilization is really nice to have when shooting images from a kayak cockpit. The "A" series is compact and lightweight, compared to Canon's "S" series of IS cameras. I own an S1 IS (3 Mpx) and an A570 IS (7 Mpx). The A570 rides on deck in a microdrybox; the S1 stays at home; some of your Victoria-area compadres use the S1 inside a full-function dry case Canon sells for it and swear by it, despite the small number of pixels per image. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Please remove all old content that is not pertinent to your reply including old headers and footers. It's list policy.... this post was modified to meet policy] Hi Doug, I've been pleased enough with the Pentax WP and WPi to just upgrade to the Optio W30 (I skipped a couple of generations). The W30 is still more waterproofer yet - enough so that they recommend it for snorkeling, plus it's got interval shooting, a feature I hope to combine with my new deck monopod http://www.flickr.com/photos/kayakwriter/2348192737/ to get the elusive kayak-cleaving-though-oncoming-wave shot (usually, you put down the paddle to pick up the camera, lose your forward way, and it becomes the kayak-being-broached shot. Yet again.) Anyway, Pentax is about due to release whatever the next generation of Optio W will be, so if you hang tight, you may be able to score a killer close-out deal on the W30. It's small enough to slip into a pocket of your PFD, keeping your deck uncluttered. Cheers, Philip *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Philip wrote: >>>>>Anyway, Pentax is about due to release whatever the next generation of Optio W will be, so if you hang tight, you may be able to score a killer close-out deal on the W30. It's small enough to slip into a pocket of your PFD, keeping your deck uncluttered.<<<<<<<<< After over 10,000 photos (and one too many hard knocks) my Pentax WR43 now takes pictures featuring black with numerous shades of pink (only) as well as horizontal fine black stripes (that weren't part of the scene) that are wider apart near the top of the picture. (If anyone knows an easy fix please comment). Anyway it looks like I need a new combination kayaking, skiing in bad weather, and snorkeling camera. However, I've been frustrated by the lack of a viewfinder on the Pentax W's of later vintage than mine (and the Olympus) and have become hooked on the Image Stabilization feature of my Canons (S3 IS and A720IS). Will somebody please make a waterproof camera with those features, and soon? Maybe with a 5X or 6X optical zoom too. I'll cross my fingers for the next Pentax W; otherwise the A720 may have to go into one of those Aquapac camera bags instead. Philip, I can see the utility of your monopod for surfing shots and the like (as long as it doesn't get in the way of your stroke or rolling) but I'm having trouble seeing it as a stabilizing device. Maybe that was never its intention. Its length would seem to magnify any rocking of the boat, where hand holding (and flex in one's body) would seem to allow for a steadier camera. Please comment. With image stabilization I'm able to handhold many night and dim light telephoto shots in the 1/10 to 1/4 second range. Sometimes even longer exposures are possible with a decent rest (or if I get lucky with one of several shots taken). Being cheap, I love not having to buy film and therefore I now often take numerous similar shots of anything that might turn out to be a good picture. One photo in the group is usually far better than most of the others. That way I can ditch most of the rest of the shots with the delete key so no one can see what an amateur photographer I really am. Doug, Sea Kayaker says they need at least 8 megapixels for cover photos if you have any ambitions that way. Matt Broze www.marinerkayaks.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Matt wrote: However, I've been frustrated by the lack of a viewfinder on the Pentax W's of later vintage than mine (and the Olympus) and have become hooked on the Image Stabilization feature of my Canons (S3 IS and A720IS). The W30 doesn't have true image stabilization, but you can set it to automagically select a high ASA/ISO (up to 3200) for a very high shutter speed. 'Course you pay for that with greater grain (not the right term in digital, I know, but I'm an old school film guy.) It does have a larger, brighter view screen that's less squinty to read in sun, but, yup, not as good as a viewfinder. B Matt wrote: Philip, I can see the utility of your monopod for surfing shots and the like (as long as it doesn't get in the way of your stroke or rolling) but I'm having trouble seeing it as a stabilizing device. Maybe that was never its intention. Its length would seem to magnify any rocking of the boat, where hand holding (and flex in one's body) would seem to allow for a steadier camera. Please comment. The monopod is far enough forward not to block my strokes (it fits in the same Scotty holder that takes my sail, which I sited with that in mind. It doesnbt hold the camera any higher than it would typically be in my hands, so no greater b arcb . You're correct, it was never intended as a stabilizing device - just a way to shoot hands-free in conditions that wouldn't other wise allow shooting. To see a weird artefact of this locked down relative to the boat effect, check my test video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsrXkbYqByM Note how in video, it creates the impression the sea is a rear screen projection special effect. Camera movement gives the viewer a much better sense of the actual rocking and rolling, as in this older video taken with the Wpi, hand-held: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD6M0l6iABw So now of course, Ibm wondering about adapting a gimbal from a compass mount or boat cup holder to hold the camera for video. For still shots, not a problem b I can always correct the horizon line in b post production.b Matt wrote: Doug, Sea Kayaker says they need at least 8 megapixels for cover photos if you have any ambitions that way. The W30 tops out at 7.1 megapixels, FYI. B Cheers, B Philip *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I just hate to plug my own inventions, but here I go anyway. http://www.sandmarks.net/caddy.html I think my camera cradle make a great stabilizing device. Even as your body moves underneath, your paddle can stay pretty horizontal while keeping you balanced. At first, I too wished for a regular viewfinder, but really now don't see it would be too helpful. Holding your camera up to your eye in a churning environment doesn't lead to good photos in my opinion. And things only get much worse if you try to use a telephoto setting. I shoot everything at wide angle and figure I've just got to get in close if I want a good shot. Holding my paddle out with camera attached and set to 2 sec time delay, I've been able to time some nice shots and keep my camera pretty steady. Mark Sanders--A Pentax Man www.sandmarks.net -----Original Message----- After over 10,000 photos (and one too many hard knocks) my Pentax WR43 now takes pictures featuring black with numerous shades of pink (only) as well as horizontal fine black stripes (that weren't part of the scene) that are wider apart near the top of the picture. (If anyone knows an easy fix please comment). Anyway it looks like I need a new combination kayaking, skiing in bad weather, and snorkeling camera. However, I've been frustrated by the lack of a viewfinder on the Pentax W's of later vintage than mine (and the Olympus) and have become hooked on the Image Stabilization feature of my Canons (S3 IS and A720IS). Will somebody please make a waterproof camera with those features, and soon? Maybe with a 5X or 6X optical zoom too. I'll cross my fingers for the next Pentax W; otherwise the A720 may have to go into one of those Aquapac camera bags instead. Philip, I can see the utility of your monopod for surfing shots and the like (as long as it doesn't get in the way of your stroke or rolling) but I'm having trouble seeing it as a stabilizing device. Maybe that was never its intention. Its length would seem to magnify any rocking of the boat, where hand holding (and flex in one's body) would seem to allow for a steadier camera. Please comment. With image stabilization I'm able to handhold many night and dim light telephoto shots in the 1/10 to 1/4 second range. Sometimes even longer exposures are possible with a decent rest (or if I get lucky with one of several shots taken). Being cheap, I love not having to buy film and therefore I now often take numerous similar shots of anything that might turn out to be a good picture. One photo in the group is usually far better than most of the others. That way I can ditch most of the rest of the shots with the delete key so no one can see what an amateur photographer I really am. Doug, Sea Kayaker says they need at least 8 megapixels for cover photos if you have any ambitions that way. Matt Broze www.marinerkayaks.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mark, A lot of the "home-video" variety kayaking action I see on YouTube and such often includes a lot of capsizes. Seems like paddlers flip a lot while being filmed or filming. So, here's my solution: http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20071231/diving-mask-gets-geeky/ DL >I just hate to plug my own inventions, but here I go anyway. > > http://www.sandmarks.net/caddy.html > > I think my camera cradle make a great stabilizing device. Even as your > body > moves underneath, your paddle can stay pretty horizontal while keeping you > balanced. > At first, I too wished for a regular viewfinder, but really now don't see > it > would be too helpful. Holding your camera up to your eye in a churning > environment doesn't lead to good photos in my opinion. And things only get > much worse if you try to use a telephoto setting. I shoot everything at > wide > angle and figure I've just got to get in close if I want a good shot. > Holding my paddle out with camera attached and set to 2 sec time delay, > I've > been able to time some nice shots and keep my camera pretty steady. > > > Mark Sanders--A Pentax Man > www.sandmarks.net *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Wow, I had not seen that before! It would seem to kill several birds with one stone. Put a little tint on those lenses and you've got the next big seller for Oakley. Of course, you'll make yourself irresistible to Brad and Craig's curse, the teenage girl friend! -----Original Message----- Mark, A lot of the "home-video" variety kayaking action I see on YouTube and such often includes a lot of capsizes. Seems like paddlers flip a lot while being filmed or filming. So, here's my solution: http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20071231/diving-mask-gets-geeky/ DL >I just hate to plug my own inventions, but here I go anyway. > > http://www.sandmarks.net/caddy.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Funny that the website for the mask just shows video of girls cavorting in a pool. They are wise not to show the person wearing the actual mask. I think I'd rather give up photography than go around wearing that thing, I have an image to uphold! Video quality looks decent though. http://www.liquidimageco.com/home/video-b.html -----Original Message----- Mark, A lot of the "home-video" variety kayaking action I see on YouTube and such often includes a lot of capsizes. Seems like paddlers flip a lot while being filmed or filming. So, here's my solution: http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20071231/diving-mask-gets-geeky/ DL *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Mark Sanders <sandmarks_at_ca.rr.com> wrote: > Funny that the website for the mask just shows video of girls cavorting in > a > pool. They are wise not to show the person wearing the actual mask. I > think > I'd rather give up photography than go around wearing that thing, I have > an > image to uphold! Video quality looks decent though. > > http://www.liquidimageco.com/home/video-b.html > Not to mention the fact that you would have to breathe through your mouth the entire time and sound funny talking. I think I'd still try one since my image (that of an old, bald guy with a big stomach) isn't much to begin with; practically anything would improve it. Plus I think I'd kinda like doing the video of that cute girl in the pool although I doubt that's part of the deal. In one video (the one with the girl swimming underwater) it appears that there is another mask/camera floating around on the surface of the pool. On the "sales" page are still photos of people wearing the mask and they don't look all that bad, actually. Seems like a cool device depending upon price and if that video is representative of quality Be nice if it was longer, too. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Doug, > > It might be worthwhile to take a look at the Canon A570 IS and similar > Canon IS cameras. Image stabilization is really nice to have when > shooting images from a kayak cockpit. The "A" series is compact and > lightweight, compared to Canon's "S" series of IS cameras. > I like Sony stuff in general - just gotta like reading pages of instruction with their stuff though. Might be a good choice for a main camera, and go with Pentax or Olympus for a quick-access waterproof PFD-pocket camera. Two cameras then. Let me run that by my wife... > I own an S1 IS (3 Mpx) and an A570 IS (7 Mpx). The A570 rides on deck in > a microdrybox; the S1 stays at home; some of your Victoria-area compadres > use the S1 inside a full-function dry case Canon sells for it and swear by > it, despite the small number of pixels per image. > > -- > Dave Kruger > Astoria, OR Yeah, I should paddle with some of these local shutter-bug clowns once and awhile. Might learn something. :-) DL *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hey Doug, I'm a fan of not carrying a very expensive camera on the water. Too many times, your camera will be getting wet which makes me reluctant to carry a very expensive camera. I've been using a Pentax Optio W20 waterproof camera and I'm very satisfied with it. I noticed the current W30 model is available on Ebay for $220 and $10 US shipping to my location. Not a bad price for a camera that you can keep in a pocket of your PFD. The picture that I had published by SK Magazine, in December's "Last Glance" was taken with my W20 set on idiot mode. Steve Holtzman *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Okay, you got me Steve. When it comes to cameras, I've got "idiot mode" written all over me. I do have an older Pentax waterproof film camera, but digital is the only way to go these days. I wish I had carried a nice camera that was waterproof and accessible for capturing some of the wild things I've seen and done over the years, probably things I'll not do again being wiser now and all that good rot. I found some old pics the other day taken with a disposable camera of all things and I added a few pics to some posts on Westcoast Paddler. It's a really nice forum for controlling what threads you want to follow and adding pictures for illustrations - things not entirely possible or easy with Paddlewise (especially cool for boat building subject matter with photo back-up, not to mention the input of the humble brilliance of Dave Kruger's building experience and patience sharing his wisdom. Alas, I also wish some of my past paddling buddies in my previous rough-water paddling lives were better at hanging around at photogenic moments when we were in extremis - but alas, everyone always wants to head for shore just when things get fun - what with being wiser and all that good rot. :-) Did like your SK photo. I haven't seen any of the photos in the new British paddling magazine yet. I hate getting new subscriptions to British paddling publications given the good stuff here and the fact that the Euro-mags putter out after awhile. DL > Hey Doug, > > I'm a fan of not carrying a very expensive camera on the water. Too many > times, your camera will be getting wet which makes me reluctant to carry a > very expensive camera. > > I've been using a Pentax Optio W20 waterproof camera and I'm very > satisfied > with it. I noticed the current W30 model is available on Ebay for $220 and > $10 US shipping to my location. Not a bad price for a camera that you can > keep in a pocket of your PFD. The picture that I had published by SK > Magazine, in December's "Last Glance" was taken with my W20 set on idiot > mode. > > Steve Holtzman *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> wrote: > > . I wish I had carried a nice camera that was waterproof > and accessible for capturing some of the wild things I've seen and done > over > the years, probably things I'll not do again being wiser now and all that > good rot. I went through a phase of taking a lot of photos but discovered that I could either focus on the experience or focus on taking a picture of it. After a while I decided I'd rather remember the experience instead of trying to save it. Of course, that was when I could actually remember experiences. Where did I put that king-size bottle of gingko biloba, anyway? Craig Jungers Forgetful in Moses Lake, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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