In a message dated 8/16/2008 11:12:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, crjungers_at_gmail.com writes: You need to meet Pam; she will cure you of this "one paddle, one kayak" nonsense. In fact, she has a few (of both) that I'm sure she can make you a good deal on. Bring a truck! Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA How unfair! I don't even have one kayak for each day of the week! Unless you count the 40 year old fiberglass one with the riveted seam, which I will give (you haul) to the first person who can identify it! I don't count this one. Anyone want me to bring it to the Port Townsend kayak symposium this September? You just have to promise I won't have to take it back home with me! I have photos, too! And if I ever get that long, somewhat Greenland like fiberglass paddle down to Mark Sanders, I won't have it around to be given a hard time about! I think he may like it! If not, I'm sure it would not be around for long, given his record! And I just posted three kayaks for sale on the NRS site. Just too many in the living room. If they have bulkheads, you can't sleep in them, you know. And Craig, you should talk. You're the only one I know with three Mariner kayaks (and I only found two of them on Craigslist and told you about them). You just need to buy some more paddles. I think you are envious. Wanna go out and do some surf launching at Cape Lookout? ;-) Pam in Washington State **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I don't think this went to Paddlewise. At least I didn't get a "reply to all" lnk on it. It's ok though, I'm taking care of that little detail. <grin> How unfair! I don't even have one kayak for each day of the week! Unless you > count the 40 year old fiberglass one with the riveted seam, which I will > give (you haul) to the first person who can identify it! I don't count this > one. Anyone want me to bring it to the Port Townsend kayak symposium this > September? You just have to promise I won't have to take it back home with > me! I have photos, too! > This is a kayak that even Matt Broze couldn't identify. > And if I ever get that long, somewhat Greenland like fiberglass paddle > down to Mark Sanders, I won't have it around to be given a hard time about! > I think he may like it! If not, I'm sure it would not be around for long, > given his record! > He can always use it to chop wood if global warming doesn't pan out. > And I just posted three kayaks for sale on the NRS site. Just too many > in the living room. If they have bulkheads, you can't sleep in them, you > know. > You can use them for children's beds, though. Especially if you strap 'em in. > > And Craig, you should talk. You're the only one I know with three > Mariner kayaks (and I only found two of them on Craigslist and told you > about them). > Three Mariner kayaks is the bare minimum to meet the necessities of paddling. You should know: you own two yourself. Just think... if you had been in a Coaster you might have made it out at Lookout. :D > You just need to buy some more paddles. I think you are envious. > I keep discovering paddles in closets all over the house. I think you've planted them. > Wanna go out and do some surf launching at Cape Lookout? ;-) > I'm not going to paddle any place that's named after someone yelling, "LOOKOUT!!!!". Craig Jungers Not as dumb as he looks, in Moses Lake, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I hate to resort to cliches, but it's whatever floats your boat(s). [Actually, I like cliches-they're an easy substitute for real thought.] Craig is limited to however many nautical doodads he can cram onto Moses Lake and his property. The paddler known previously and referred heretofore as Pam is limited to however many she can launch into the vast Pacific. My garage has room for one kayak and a few bicycles. It seems everyone is approaching a stable solution. Triple digits and not loving it in Portland. Brad Quoting Pamvetdr_at_aol.com: > In a message dated 8/16/2008 11:12:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > crjungers_at_gmail.com writes: > > You need to meet Pam; she will cure you of this "one paddle, one kayak" > nonsense. In fact, she has a few (of both) that I'm sure she can make you a > good deal on. > > Bring a truck! > > > Craig Jungers > Moses Lake, WA > > How unfair! I don't even have one kayak for each day of the week! Unless you > count the 40 year old fiberglass one with the riveted seam, which I will give > (you haul) to the first person who can identify it! I don't count this one. > Anyone want me to bring it to the Port Townsend kayak symposium this > September? > You just have to promise I won't have to take it back home with me! I have > photos, too! > And if I ever get that long, somewhat Greenland like fiberglass paddle > down to Mark Sanders, I won't have it around to be given a hard time about! I > think he may like it! If not, I'm sure it would not be around for long, given > his record! > And I just posted three kayaks for sale on the NRS site. Just too many > in the living room. If they have bulkheads, you can't sleep in them, > you know. > > And Craig, you should talk. You're the only one I know with three Mariner > kayaks (and I only found two of them on Craigslist and told you about them). > You just need to buy some more paddles. I think you are envious. > Wanna go out and do some surf launching at Cape Lookout? ;-) > Pam in Washington State *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Aug 16, 2008, at 11:07 PM, Bradford R. Crain wrote: > I hate to resort to cliches, but it's whatever floats your boat(s). > [Actually, I like cliches-they're an easy substitute for real > thought.] > Craig is limited to however many nautical doodads he can cram onto > Moses > Lake and his property. The paddler known previously and referred > heretofore > as Pam is limited to however many she can launch into the vast > Pacific. My garage has room for one kayak and a few bicycles. It > seems everyone is approaching a stable solution. > > Triple digits and not loving it in Portland. > Brad So is it time for an aquatic shakedown? Who else would like to share with the group their personal paddle craft tally? I do like Pam's idea of one kayak for each day o' the week. My personal SWMBO would disagree quite strongly BTW. Laundry lists with colorful descriptions of favorite old war horses welcome. Doug's 100+ lb VCP comes to mind. My list is small but tasteful depending on your taste. Single baidarka with proud war paint. Double baidarka with optional matching sail and war paint. Tern 14 with deck festooned with geckos, poison dart frogs and butterflies. Surf jet SOT with matching faded thigh straps. Old Town OTCA who has yet to open up to me and tell me her history. Jim et al *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:48 PM, James Farrelly <JFarrelly5_at_comcast.net>wrote: > > So is it time for an aquatic shakedown? <snip> > > Single baidarka with proud war paint. > Double baidarka with optional matching sail and war paint. > Tern 14 with deck festooned with geckos, poison dart frogs and butterflies. > Surf jet SOT with matching faded thigh straps. > Old Town OTCA who has yet to open up to me and tell me her history. > I'll see your list and raise you mine: Kayaks: 1. Dagger river runner of unknown parentage; 2. Perception Pirouette; 3. Dagger RPM Max. Canoes: Grumman 15' Aluminum of ancient manufacture Sea Kayaks: 1. Nimbus Telkwa HV; 2. Nimbus Solander (wife's ride); 3. Mariner Escape; 4. Mariner Express; 5. Mariner Coaster; 6. Loon 111 (presently at daughter's as it's the only kayak her husky will go out in). Dinghies: 1. Inflatable Achilles Sportboat; 2. 8 foot Montgomery (or knockoff of a Montgomery); Power Boats: 1. 25-foot Carver Santa Cruz named "Ad Hoc"; 2. 3-seat SeaDoo jet ski; 3. Standup jet ski. Sailboats: 1. Dawson 26 named "Yeraz" (means "Dream" in Romanian... honest); 2. West Wight Potter 15. I am not sure if I've counted them all. Do sailboards count? How about towed doughnut floats? Do I win? Craig Jungers Moses Lake Marina *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
--- On Sat, 8/16/08, Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com> wrote: > I'll see your list and raise you mine: --Snip-- > I am not sure if I've counted them all. Do sailboards > count? How about towed > doughnut floats? > > Do I win? This is a very dangerous game. . . . -Harvey Golden 42 kayaks 1 sailing canoe 1 dugout canoe 1 Fijian sailing outrigger 1 14' sharpie sailing skiff 1 Nautiraid 3 lifejackets ;-) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Harvey Golden <harveydgolden_at_yahoo.com>wrote: > > This is a very dangerous game. . . . > > -Harvey Golden > > 42 kayaks > 1 sailing canoe > 1 dugout canoe > 1 Fijian sailing outrigger > 1 14' sharpie sailing skiff > 1 Nautiraid > 3 lifejackets ;-) > I think we should disqualify anyone who has a website-cum-museum. On the other hand, it *is* an obsession and that should fall under the rules. Perhaps we should have categories. Kayaks one has built personally; kayaks built by someone else; commercially built kayaks; museum pieces; etc. I have to admit that I have not built any of my kayaks but I did build the 32-foot sailboat. I think that cured me. My brother-in-law still has 20-something kayaks and that doesn't count the ones he's given away or had stolen. I'm sure that for anyone who claims the record there will surely be someone who has more. It's just the nature of humankind to collect pretty things. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I Have to disagree, Craig. I figure most museums probably start out with someone who just collected too much junk on his own and had to branch out! There's probably quite a few kayakers out there who're just a boat or two away from being a museum! A museum is a smart man's way of clearing out his garage! Mark -----Original Message----- I think we should disqualify anyone who has a website-cum-museum. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
What about "the person who has influenced the most kayaks being bought? Or, "the person who has influenced the most kayaks being home built?" Nick or Chris Cunningham for the built-influenced? Duane maybe? Doug Lloyd >I Have to disagree, Craig. I figure most museums probably start out with > someone who just collected too much junk on his own and had to branch out! > There's probably quite a few kayakers out there who're just a boat or two > away from being a museum! > A museum is a smart man's way of clearing out his garage! > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > > I think we should disqualify anyone who has a website-cum-museum. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Is this thread turning into "He/she who dies with the most toys win s"? Christopher G. Madden maddencg_at_earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net] On Behalf Of Harvey Golden Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:36 AM To: paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle Types and kayak count --- On Sat, 8/16/08, Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com> wrote: > I'll see your list and raise you mine: --Snip-- > I am not sure if I've counted them all. Do sailboards > count? How about towed > doughnut floats? > > Do I win? This is a very dangerous game. . . . -Harvey Golden 42 kayaks 1 sailing canoe 1 dugout canoe 1 Fijian sailing outrigger 1 14' sharpie sailing skiff 1 Nautiraid 3 lifejackets ;-) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Are we counting ships in a bottle? Does a 60 foot sailboat count as 600 kayaks? I think we need a rules clarification. Brad Quoting "Christopher G. Madden" <maddencg_at_earthlink.net>: > Is this thread turning into "He/she who dies with the most toys win s"? > > Christopher G. Madden > maddencg_at_earthlink.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net > [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net] On Behalf Of Harvey Golden > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:36 AM > To: paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle Types and kayak count > > --- On Sat, 8/16/08, Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com> wrote: >> I'll see your list and raise you mine: > --Snip-- >> I am not sure if I've counted them all. Do sailboards >> count? How about towed >> doughnut floats? >> >> Do I win? > > This is a very dangerous game. . . . > > -Harvey Golden > > 42 kayaks > 1 sailing canoe > 1 dugout canoe > 1 Fijian sailing outrigger > 1 14' sharpie sailing skiff > 1 Nautiraid > 3 lifejackets ;-) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
--- On Sun, 8/17/08, Christopher G. Madden <maddencg_at_earthlink.net> wrote: > Is this thread turning into "He/she who dies with the > most toys win s"? Alas, I wish it were that easy. I think whoever gets to use whatever toys they have the most wins. In that department, I am a MAJOR loser ;-) There's the inevitability of having so many toys that few ever get used. Best, Harvey *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
First of all, where would this list be (Paddlewise, that is) without Brad? I've learned not to open his posts if I'm drinking coffee or tea at my terminal lest I burst out in laughter and short out delicate electronics. As for kayak collections, mine is modest. It is growing. Together with various bike trailers, kayak racks and bicycles, any thief working the neighborhood would be sure to trip, entangle, and seriously mangle themselves trying to scamper through my yard. Right now, three rudders, miles of cable and cordage, kayak seats and four buckets of kayak parts and bolts and fittings litter the side pathway. Heck, my wife's loquacious lady church friends can't even navigate our yard when she brings them over for backyard socials - so I've been told; repeatedly. But I like it when a plan comes together. I've have four touring kayaks (one decommissioned due to new weight restrictions in BC for vehicles carrying kayaks), three sit on tops, and one white water kayak. Canoe elsewhere. Who canoes anymore, anyway? :-) I've had an Atlantis prototype kayak around here on and off; neighbors are worried I'm cheating on my wife again, but it was on loan for evaluation. When I get my renos done, I'll be working on another new kayak, either a new build or a modification of a second hand boat. However, as I just picked up a new used Nordkapp, I've been told one other kayak has to go. As I only have one spouse and can't let her go, I'm wondering if you can make good money selling fiberglass scrap. Scrap metal, the heavier, the more money you get for a given volume. Is old fiberglass worth anything? My old Nordkapp might be worth a fortune. Doug Lloyd > On Aug 16, 2008, at 11:07 PM, Bradford R. Crain wrote: > >> I hate to resort to cliches, but it's whatever floats your boat(s). >> [Actually, I like cliches-they're an easy substitute for real thought.] >> Craig is limited to however many nautical doodads he can cram onto Moses >> Lake and his property. The paddler known previously and referred >> heretofore >> as Pam is limited to however many she can launch into the vast Pacific. >> My garage has room for one kayak and a few bicycles. It seems everyone >> is approaching a stable solution. >> >> Triple digits and not loving it in Portland. >> Brad > > So is it time for an aquatic shakedown? Who else would like to share with > the group their personal paddle craft tally? I do like Pam's idea of one > kayak for each day o' the week. My personal SWMBO would disagree quite > strongly BTW. Laundry lists with colorful descriptions of favorite old > war horses welcome. Doug's 100+ lb VCP comes to mind. My list is small > but tasteful depending on your taste. > > Single baidarka with proud war paint. > Double baidarka with optional matching sail and war paint. > Tern 14 with deck festooned with geckos, poison dart frogs and > butterflies. > Surf jet SOT with matching faded thigh straps. > Old Town OTCA who has yet to open up to me and tell me her history. > > Jim et al *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Where to put your bicycle? That's a genuine rhetorical question. You put your bicycle under you and ride like the wind. [Between kayak trips to Deception Pass and Cape Lookout of course.] BRC Quoting Pamvetdr_at_aol.com: > > In a message dated 8/16/2008 8:16:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, crainb_at_pdx.edu > writes: > > My garage has room for one kayak and a few bicycles. It seems > everyone is approaching a stable solution. > > If you buy a manufactured home, with a little alteration of the skirting, you > can have a lot of semi-secure storage space. I don't know if I can ever move, > though. No place to put the kayaks. > I did fine with one functional kayak for a couple years. Then when I got > the Mariner Sprite, I only paddled it for about 3 years. Now I'm overwhelmed, > and really am trying to sell kayaks. I'm just never home to do it! > I think one kayak and one paddle with a backup is basically what most > people use, whether they have more or not. > > And I haven't quite figured out where to put my one bicycle. > Pam in Washington State (all right, in Graham, not > related to Gresham) > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 > ) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
First of all, where would this list be (Paddlewise, that is) without Brad? I've learned not to open his posts if I'm drinking coffee or tea at my terminal lest I burst out in laughter and short out delicate electronics. As for kayak collections, mine is modest. It is growing. Together with various bike trailers, kayak racks and bicycles, any thief working the neighborhood would be sure to trip, entangle, and seriously mangle themselves trying to scamper through my yard. Right now, three rudders, miles of cable and cordage, kayak seats and four buckets of kayak parts and bolts and fittings litter the side pathway. Heck, my wife's loquacious lady church friends can't even navigate our yard when she brings them over for backyard socials - so I've been told; repeatedly. But I like it when a plan comes together. I've have four touring kayaks (one decommissioned due to new weight restrictions in BC for vehicles carrying kayaks), three sit on tops, and one white water kayak. Canoe elsewhere. Who canoes anymore, anyway? :-) I've had an Atlantis prototype kayak around here on and off; neighbors are worried I'm cheating on my wife again, but it was on loan for evaluation. When I get my renos done, I'll be working on another new kayak, either a new build or a modification of a second hand boat. However, as I just picked up a new used Nordkapp, I've been told one other kayak has to go. As I only have one spouse and can't let her go, I'm wondering if you can make good money selling fiberglass scrap. Scrap metal, the heavier, the more money you get for a given volume. Is old fiberglass worth anything? My old Nordkapp might be worth a fortune. Doug Lloyd > On Aug 16, 2008, at 11:07 PM, Bradford R. Crain wrote: > >> I hate to resort to cliches, but it's whatever floats your boat(s). >> [Actually, I like cliches-they're an easy substitute for real thought.] >> Craig is limited to however many nautical doodads he can cram onto Moses >> Lake and his property. The paddler known previously and referred >> heretofore >> as Pam is limited to however many she can launch into the vast Pacific. >> My garage has room for one kayak and a few bicycles. It seems everyone >> is approaching a stable solution. >> >> Triple digits and not loving it in Portland. >> Brad > > So is it time for an aquatic shakedown? Who else would like to share with > the group their personal paddle craft tally? I do like Pam's idea of one > kayak for each day o' the week. My personal SWMBO would disagree quite > strongly BTW. Laundry lists with colorful descriptions of favorite old > war horses welcome. Doug's 100+ lb VCP comes to mind. My list is small > but tasteful depending on your taste. > > Single baidarka with proud war paint. > Double baidarka with optional matching sail and war paint. > Tern 14 with deck festooned with geckos, poison dart frogs and > butterflies. > Surf jet SOT with matching faded thigh straps. > Old Town OTCA who has yet to open up to me and tell me her history. > > Jim et al *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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