One should note that reindeer's feet are webbed, pretty much like an otter's, much more speed than horses in water is not amazing. Tord, Sweden -- Be Yourself _at_ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
So if a duck, an otter, a reindeer, and Greg Stamer decide to have a race, who would win? Brad Quoting "Tord S. Eriksson" <tord_at_mindless.com>: > One should note that reindeer's feet > are webbed, pretty much like an otter's, > much more speed than horses in water is > not amazing. > > Tord, > Sweden *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
--- On Mon, 7/20/09, Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu> wrote: > So if a duck, an > otter, a reindeer, and Greg Stamer decide to have a > race, who would win? The otter wins with Stamer a close second... :) Holmes *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I find myself wonder how much gas eating tundra grass produces and whether that has any bearing on speed through the water. :P Craig Jungers Moses Lake, Wa www.nwkayaking.net On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Tord S. Eriksson <tord_at_mindless.com> wrote: > One should note that reindeer's feet > are webbed, pretty much like an otter's, > much more speed than horses in water is > not amazing. > > Tord, > Sweden *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
The duck would be scared out if its whits by unmentionable participants, so it would take flight, right?! So either it would be disqualified, or win, depending on the judge - say Craig?! T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bradford R. Crain" To: "Tord S. Eriksson" Cc: paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Reindeer speed in water Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:06:08 -0700 So if a duck, an otter, a reindeer, and Greg Stamer decide to have a race, who would win? Brad Quoting "Tord S. Eriksson" : > One should note that reindeer's feet > are webbed, pretty much like an otter's, > much more speed than horses in water is > not amazing. > > Tord, > Sweden -- How Strong is Your Score? Click here to see yours for $0! By FreeCreditReport.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Maybe that's a way to decrease hull friction, thus we eat our favorite farticant, say brown beans, before the race having first donned air-proof underwear, with a suitable hose adator, so we can channel the gas to lubricate the hull - hmm! Fart off, might be a winning context?! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Jungers" To: "Tord S. Eriksson" Cc: paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Reindeer speed in water Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:46:33 -0700 I find myself wonder how much gas eating tundra grass produces and whether that has any bearing on speed through the water. :P Craig Jungers Moses Lake, Wa www.nwkayaking.net On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Tord S. Eriksson <tord_at_mindless.com> wrote: One should note that reindeer's feet are webbed, pretty much like an otter's, much more speed than horses in water is not amazing. Tord, Sweden -- How Strong is Your Score? Click here to see yours for $0! By FreeCreditReport.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I'd be worried about tundra collapse, which may or may not be carbon neutral (carbon being released due to the collapse, but carbon also being retained as vegetation grows in the new ponds), but certainly would significantly increase methane release, speeding global warming. ----- Original Message ----- I find myself wonder how much gas eating tundra grass produces and whether that has any bearing on speed through the water. :P Craig Jungers *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Brad wrote: <<<...However, I would be terrified to be pursued by a polar bear or grizzly bear while on the water. Has anyone ever measured their swimming prowess and lived to tell about it?>>> Nigel Foster and Kristen Nelson had several encounters with Polar Bears in Labrador. Also, the authors of "Paddle to the Arctic" and Kabloona in the Yellow Kayak" had an encounter when paddling in northern Hudson's Bay where they were apparently persued for many hours by a Polar Bear. What Polar Bears might lack in swimming speed they make up for with persistence and stealth. And yes, the swimming speed of Polar Bears is in dispute as well. The paddlers could out distance the bears (at least when the bear was doing a speed it could maintain for long distances) but the bear's persistance made it difficult to stop long for a rest *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:14 AM, MATT MARINER BROZE <marinerkayaks_at_msn.com>wrote: > The paddlers could out > distance the bears (at least when the bear was doing a speed it could > maintain > for long distances) but the bear's persistance made it difficult to stop > long > for a rest > So many good reasons to have a mothership. I'm guessing that mine could outdistance a polar bear with no problem even on the 9.9 hp kicker. Old age is not a problem as long as you have some tools to overcome adversity. <grin> Craig Jungers on the sofa watching TdF Stage 17 www.nwkayaking.net PS: Matt, your paddling trick makes a lot of sense. I've done something similar as a "rest" stroke but it makes a lot of sense to adopt it as a standard stroke. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
What makes you think that the bears don't have a mothership as well? Be afraid, be very afraid. -----Original Message----- So many good reasons to have a mothership. I'm guessing that mine could outdistance a polar bear with no problem even on the 9.9 hp kicker. Old age is not a problem as long as you have some tools to overcome adversity. <grin> Craig Jungers *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Richard Culpeper <culpeper_at_tbaytel.net>wrote: > What makes you think that the bears don't have a mothership as well? > > Be afraid, be very afraid. > > Yikes! That would be a scary development all right. Especially if it had a big bbq grill mounted at the rear of the cockpit. Evolution in action. Who says Polar Bears can't adapt? I'm going to make sure the 5.7 liter Corvette engine in *my* mothership is tuned and ready just in case. Craig :) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"The Golden Compass" featured armored bears, so motherships don't seem so far out of the question. Granted, that took place in an alternate universe, but I think some of us spend time in places like that already. Steve Richard Culpeper wrote: > What makes you think that the bears don't have a mothership as well? > > Be afraid, be very afraid. -- Steve Cramer Athens, GA http://www.savvypaddler.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
It may have been on this list a few years ago where someone remarked on whether you would rather meet a grizzly or polar bear--"you can negotiate with a grizzly, but to a polar bear if it moves it's food." GaryJ MATT MARINER BROZE wrote: > > Also, the authors of "Paddle to the Arctic" and Kabloona in the Yellow Kayak" > had an encounter when paddling in northern Hudson's Bay where they were > apparently persued for many hours by a Polar Bear. What Polar Bears might lack > in swimming speed they make up for with persistence and stealth. And yes, the > swimming speed of Polar Bears is in dispute as well. The paddlers could out > distance the bears (at least when the bear was doing a speed it could maintain > for long distances) but the bear's persistance made it difficult to stop long > for a rest *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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