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From: skimmer <skimmer_at_enter.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] curing jetski disease
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:40:58 -0400
Thinking about Joq's solution, I have thought for years that fine meltable
beads in the water might get sucked into the engine- and freeze it.

Just now the obvious ancient solution pops to mind. That would be finely
divided wood chips. Perhaps we could commission a study. What is the best
material for freezing a jetski engine. What we need here is floating gravel!

 

CAS
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] curing jetski disease
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:44:29 -0700
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 7:40 AM, skimmer <skimmer_at_enter.net> wrote:

>
> Just now the obvious ancient solution pops to mind. That would be finely
> divided wood chips. Perhaps we could commission a study. What is the best
> material for freezing a jetski engine. What we need here is floating
> gravel!
>

This idea has some merit but it's far too general. There are actually some
reasonably nice jet ski drivers. I am, for instance, not prone to chasing
ducklings or playing chicken with other boats. However my neighbor to the
north has two kids who would be far better off riding plastic logs than
operating jet skis.

What we need is something that takes advantage of the very nature of jet ski
operators and then turns that against them but does not interfere with the
safe operation of a jet ski.

For instance, we know that jet ski drivers love to go around and around in
circles so perhaps we can design something that rests lightly at the bottom
of the water but has just enough buoyancy that any vertex puts it into
motion and causes it to rise. This has the advantage of pinpointing the jet
ski because, as near as I can tell, other than playboat kayak paddlers, no
other boaters are so prone to turn in endless circles.


Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
www.nwkayaking.net
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From: Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] curing jetski disease
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:12:19 -0700
There is a name for the affliction that causes jet ski operators to go
in circles. It's caused whirling disease. Fish get it too.

Brad

Quoting Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>:

> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 7:40 AM, skimmer <skimmer_at_enter.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Just now the obvious ancient solution pops to mind. That would be finely
>> divided wood chips. Perhaps we could commission a study. What is the best
>> material for freezing a jetski engine. What we need here is floating
>> gravel!
>>
>
> This idea has some merit but it's far too general. There are actually some
> reasonably nice jet ski drivers. I am, for instance, not prone to chasing
> ducklings or playing chicken with other boats. However my neighbor to the
> north has two kids who would be far better off riding plastic logs than
> operating jet skis.
>
> What we need is something that takes advantage of the very nature of jet ski
> operators and then turns that against them but does not interfere with the
> safe operation of a jet ski.
>
> For instance, we know that jet ski drivers love to go around and around in
> circles so perhaps we can design something that rests lightly at the bottom
> of the water but has just enough buoyancy that any vertex puts it into
> motion and causes it to rise. This has the advantage of pinpointing the jet
> ski because, as near as I can tell, other than playboat kayak paddlers, no
> other boaters are so prone to turn in endless circles.
>
>
> Craig Jungers
> Moses Lake, WA
> www.nwkayaking.net
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From: Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] curing jetski disease
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:06:55 -0700
I still favor the idea of a small surface-to-surface heat-seeking missile.
I've checked some of the paddling supply catalogues, but haven't found what
I want yet. Maybe some of the military supply houses have just the ticket.

Brad

Quoting skimmer <skimmer_at_enter.net>:

> Thinking about Joq's solution, I have thought for years that fine meltable
> beads in the water might get sucked into the engine- and freeze it.
>
> Just now the obvious ancient solution pops to mind. That would be finely
> divided wood chips. Perhaps we could commission a study. What is the best
> material for freezing a jetski engine. What we need here is floating gravel!
>
>
>
> CAS
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From: Joe P. <jpylka_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] curing jetski disease
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:11:07 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
I wonder if some enterprising Paddlewiser down there can come up with a use for one of these:

http://defensetech.org/2010/06/08/if-you-find-one-of-our-undersea-robots-please-call-us-navy/

Joe P.
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From: Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] curing jetski disease
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:30:11 -0700
If I find one of these, I'm going to keep it.

BRC

Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] curing jetski disease


>I wonder if some enterprising Paddlewiser down there can come up with a use 
>for one of these:
>
> http://defensetech.org/2010/06/08/if-you-find-one-of-our-undersea-robots-please-call-us-navy/
>
> Joe P.
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From: <Pamvetdr_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] curing jetski disease
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:50:17 EDT
Have you ever tried to dissolve the biodegradable  packing pellets?  They 
get slimy quickly, but don't actually dissolve very fast, and quite slowly  
in cold water. Perhaps deploying these like shark repellent, in an area 
around  the kayak, would act as a warn off to the jet skis. Small, light colored, 
 dissolvable, biodegradable pellets, non-toxic, lightweight, and easy to  
transport. Think about it....
      Pam in Washignton State
 
 
In a message dated 6/11/2010 7:41:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
skimmer_at_enter.net writes:

Thinking  about Joq's solution, I have thought for years that fine meltable
beads in  the water might get sucked into the engine- and freeze it.

Just now the  obvious ancient solution pops to mind. That would be finely
divided wood  chips. Perhaps we could commission a study. What is the best
material for  freezing a jetski engine. What we need here is floating  
gravel!
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