If anyone visits the fish trolling web site at <http://www.jlc.net/hlevin.>, they may feel as though they have walked into a showing of the movie Jaws. I really liked the shot of the cockpit used as a ice storage area. This reminds me of Bill Newman's arrival at Andy Knapp's Stockton Island Rendezvous a few years ago in the Apostle Islands of Lake Superior. Bill arrived to the island just in time to start preparing his contribution to the evening feast. Bill brought lobster and to keep them fresh he filled his day hatch with water. He originally thought about transporting them in his cockpit, but did not want to get pinched anywhere below decks. Good Paddling, Don Dimond ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Hi yall, Just thought I could add a little something to the trolling thread... Ive been playing with my own handlines since i returned from Kwajalaien in the Marshall Islands (that is all they use out there). I took a kids pool noodle and chopped it up into 6 inch links, then trimmed down the diameter of the center inch of each block to about 1/2 inch smaller than the rest of the material. Then i wrapped some mono line and tied it off and voila... ultra cheap handline rigs that fit stay perfectly snug under deck bungies. They are still in the very early stages of research and development (another words, ive used them once and havent caught anything yet) but they havent given me any trouble yet. anybody else got anything to contribute to this thread? Robin Lovelock Mobile AL *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> Just thought I could add a little something to the trolling thread... Ive > been playing with my own handlines since i returned from Kwajalaien in the > Marshall Islands (that is all they use out there). I took a kids pool I know everyone likes the handline idea, but for myself, having plenty of rods and a reels, it just feels easier to take a broken rod, a simple casting reel spooled with dacron and troll from a traditional rod holder. Speckled trout seem to be most volunerable to this in our gulf coast bay system. Drag a large mullet imitation mirrorlure or whatever. I've had trouble in the past with oyster shell cutting standard mono, so I now use a heavy leader on the end. But otherwise its just a normal casting rig. Richard Walker Houston, TX http://www.neosoft.com/~rww/kayak_log.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Last summer I hooked what I believe must have been a porpoise, while trolling from my kayak. The action took place in British Columbia. Had I been using a hand line, I would not be around today. Brad Crain > From: Gratytshrk_at_aol.com > Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:22:39 EST > To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Trolling > Hi yall, > Just thought I could add a little something to the trolling thread... Ive been > playing with my own handlines since i returned from Kwajalaien in the Marshall > Islands (that is all they use out there). I took a kids pool noodle and > chopped it up into 6 inch links, then trimmed down the diameter of the center > inch of each block to about 1/2 inch smaller than the rest of the material. > Then i wrapped some mono line and tied it off and voila... ultra cheap > handline rigs that fit stay perfectly snug under deck bungies. They are still > in the very early stages of research and development (another words, ive used > them once and havent caught anything yet) but they havent given me any trouble > yet. > anybody else got anything to contribute to this thread? > Robin Lovelock > Mobile AL > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** > ********************************************************************** Bradford R. Crain E-mail: brad_at_mth.pdx.edu Dept. of Mathematics Phone: (503) 725-3127 Portland State Univ. FAX: (503) 725-3661 P.O. Box 751 Portland, Or. 97207 ********************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I have been gasping for air XC skiing in CO so this is my opportunity to add my $.02 to the trolling thread. There are a few rules and techniques that I use to give an added margin of safety to my fishing and quality to my catch. 1. I never tie my hand line to my kayak. I just slip in under one bungie and can let it "go" easily. 2. If I see seals in my immediate area I stop fishing. 3. I carry a knife on my pfd (always wear it when fishing) and can easily cut the line. 4. I don't use a stringer. I keep my catch (that is legal and that I will eat) in a mesh bag. I dunk the bag frequently to keep the fish fresh. 5. If I know I will be out all day I let the early catches go or I fillet them on the spot and store the fillet in a baggie with a lemon wedge of two (lemons are cheap and last a long time behind my seat). 6. I always use a paddle leash when I fish. 7. I never anchor my kayak. 8. And if I had to depend on my fishing for sustenance I would have starved years ago. Hal Wilton, NH Power your boat with carbohydrates, not hydrocarbons. http://www.jlc.net/~hlevin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
This is just one of the things that concerns me about trolling. I mentioned in an offline message to TomW in Seattle that I don't know where I'd keep a fish, and the thought of dragging a salmon on a stringer seems dangerous. I shudder to even think about what it would be like if an orca or Stellar sea lion decided that it looked like an easy meal (I hope that they're smarter than this, but really don't know). Even a harbor seal or porpoise trying to steal it would probably be quite an experience. Does anybody out there on the list actually fish......and catch, from their kayak? Especially any salt water paddlers/fishers - how do you deal with handling fish in an environment where there are large toothy creatures around? On land, at least around here, if a bear wants your fish it gets it without argument. Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska > -----Original Message----- > From: BRADFORD R. CRAIN [mailto:brad_at_mth.pdx.edu] > Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 6:55 AM > To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net; Gratytshrk_at_aol.com > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Trolling > > > Last summer I hooked what I believe must have been a porpoise, > while trolling from my kayak. The action took place in British > Columbia. Had I been using a hand line, I would not be around today. > Brad Crain > > > From: Gratytshrk_at_aol.com > > Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:22:39 EST > > To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Trolling > > > Hi yall, > > Just thought I could add a little something to the trolling > thread... Ive been > > playing with my own handlines since i returned from > Kwajalaien in the Marshall > > Islands (that is all they use out there). I took a kids > pool noodle and > > chopped it up into 6 inch links, then trimmed down the > diameter of the center > > inch of each block to about 1/2 inch smaller than the rest > of the material. > > Then i wrapped some mono line and tied it off and voila... > ultra cheap > > handline rigs that fit stay perfectly snug under deck > bungies. They are still > > in the very early stages of research and development > (another words, ive used > > them once and havent caught anything yet) but they havent > given me any trouble > > yet. > > anybody else got anything to contribute to this thread? > > Robin Lovelock > > Mobile AL *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> Does anybody out there on the list actually fish......and catch, from > their kayak? Especially any salt water paddlers/fishers - how do you deal > with handling fish in an environment where there are large toothy Keeping fish in saltwater almost always involves putting them on ice, in your boat. Whether that boat is a kayak, a center-console, or a cigarrette boat. The only folks that typically drag fish around on a stringer are wadefishermen, where carrying a cooler is simply impossible. I use a moderate sized collapsable cooler. I also have a long, skinny dry bag which would be the recipient of any 28" red drum that I might ever get lucky enough to catch. The dry bag, plus some ice would be perfectly adequate to keep the fish fresh for a few hours. Richard Walker Houston, TX http://www.neosoft.com/~rww/kayak_log.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
David Seng wrote: > > This is just one of the things that concerns me about trolling. I > mentioned in an offline message to TomW in Seattle that I don't know > where I'd keep a fish, and the thought of dragging a salmon on a > stringer seems dangerous. [snip] > Does anybody out there on the list actually fish......and catch, from > their kayak? Especially any salt water paddlers/fishers - how do you > deal with handling fish in an environment where there are large toothy > creatures around? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BRADFORD R. CRAIN > > Last summer I hooked what I believe must have been a porpoise, > > while trolling from my kayak. The action took place in British > > Columbia. Had I been using a hand line, I would not be around today. I fish for critters when kayaking, and mainly for bottom-dwellers, not usually being in a place where it is legal (or, likely) to catch a salmon. I just whack my rockfish on the head and use a close-tied stringer or hang them on the aft deck. It's cool enough where I paddle the fish is very fresh when cooked a couple hours later. Many days of this, and never had anything come sniffing around for a free lunch, AFAIK. Regarding hooking something bigger than you are -- been there, done that! In the Broken Group (Barkley Sound, BC), while *bottom fishing*, I snagged a harbor seal, who took off like a scalded snake, dragging me and my boat along for a ride. I had to cut the line to avoid a capsize. Although I was using a conventional rod and reel, I do not think it would have been very different if I had snagged the piniped with a handline. The knife is close at hand when I fish. Regarding Dave Seng's concern: It is common to have a seal or sea lion nab your hooked salmon while mooching (slow-speed trolling) from a charter boat, so his concern is valid. I suspect that if the salmon is close-tied, the pinipeds will not bother it. On 30 feet of mono, though, they love to nail 'em! -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 5:59 PM -0800 15/2/99, Dave Kruger wrote: >Regarding hooking something bigger than you are -- been there, done that! >In the Broken Group (Barkley Sound, BC), while *bottom fishing*, I snagged >a harbor seal, who took off like a scalded snake, dragging me and my boat >along for a ride. I had to cut the line to avoid a capsize. Although I >was using a conventional rod and reel, I do not think it would have been >very different if I had snagged the piniped with a handline. The knife is >close at hand when I fish. (snip) >-- >Dave Kruger >Astoria, OR While in the Brokens I saw a former boyfriend nearly go over when he hooked a halibut (we guessed) and it wanted to leave. And he was in a Wind Dancer, not an easy boat to tip over. We never did find out what it really was. He had to cut the line. He loved fishing (and for all I know still does ;) and caught one salmon at last, and many um, whatever they were, mackerel I think. One guide on a trip I was on caught a good sized salmon every day for our communal dinner every evening. The trade off was, he left the group for long stretches to go fishing and was soon lost to sight leaving us with his somewhat more volatile cohort. Diane *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> Does anybody out there on the list actually fish......and catch, from > their kayak? Especially any salt water paddlers/fishers - how do you > deal with handling fish in an environment where there are large toothy > creatures around? I pretty much always carry fishing gear when I'm out, although I only usually fish if the sea isn't too lumpy. Most success going for bottom fish on a high tide: Pollock, Saithe, and Mackerel. I used to use an old coffee tin as a handline/reel that I could cast spinners with (clever technique I learnt in Chile), but now use a commercial handline that I found in Norway. Quite heavy line (probably 50lbs) for the 1-3lb fish I usually hook into, with a trace which consists of a eight mackerel feathers/squid lures spaced at 2 foot intervals followed by four feet and a large ledger. The handline is very neat, with a rubber strip which holds the lures securely, which I just slip under the decklines when not in use. To fish I wind out line until I'm on the bottom, then wind out another couple of meters and tie the handle off to an elastic bungie belayed to the closest foredeck line. Technique: paddle slowly for a couple of strokes then stop, feeling for tension in the line with one hand. Wait as I glide for the ledger to contact the bottom, then repeat. More often than not I'll hook into fish just as I paddle away, so when I feel for tension in the line I know if I'm into a fish. Not exactly sporting, but because I use overly heavy gear I just paddle off for a few strokes, then wind in the catch. I always carry a large dive knife on the foredeck when I'm fishing, which gives me the option of cutting the line should I hook into a seal/porpoise (which has never happened) and I simply knock the fish on the head with this. I store the catch in exactly the same way that I would if I was fishing with a rod on land: put them into two plastic grocery bags. In the kayak these then go on the floor of the cockpit. If I do fish its usually for ten to twenty minutes at the end of the day just before I land, and the catch is either in my stomach or my freezer a few hours later :-). Cheers Colin Calder 57º19'N 2º10'W *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
David Seng wrote: " Does anybody out there on the list actually fish......and catch, from their kayak? Especially any salt water paddlers/fishers - how do you deal with handling fish in an environment where there are large toothy creatures around? On land, at least around here, if a bear wants your fish it gets it without argument" I usually fish for rock cod and greenling on my trips and I found the best way to store them is in a wet burlap bag. It helps to keep them cool for a short time and also protects me from their sharp fins. I either place the bag on the back deck or occasionally in the cockpit at my feet. I used to put them on a stringer but after getting a fish torn apart by a couple of dogfish as I was about to land it, I have decided to keep my catch out of the water. Because there are plenty of black bears where I paddle I always follow some basics when handling fish. I set up the kitchen as far away from the tents as possibe and have a set of clothes specifically for fishing and cooking that is stored in a dry bag in my bear cache. I have yet to have a problem with a bear ( or a bear have a problem with me). A set up I tried this past summer for trolling was just to hand hold the rod and have my buddy tow me around. I told him he needed practice using the tow rope. I was able to catch some good sized fish ( one was too big, it broke me off after about 15 minutes). Unfortunately I don't think I can talk him into towing me about for an hour again. Andrew Jones _______________________________________________ Kingfisher Wilderness Adventures Ltd. Suite 211 - 1641 Lonsdale Ave. North Vancouver, BC, Canada V7M 2J5 Ph. 604-831-6180 e-mail: kingfshr_at_idmail.com www.kingfisher-adventures.com ________________________________________________ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I spend a good deal of my time in a kayak fishing. I have used both handline and rod and reel with equal success. I consider the handline to be a part of my basic kayak equipment, while I use the rod and reel for more sportier excursions. As far as hooking things that may be too big, all you need to do is use about a five or six foot length of lighter "leader" tied to the business end of your handline. I like about forty lb. test monofiliment. A strong 20 or 30 lb. fish could easily break this leader line. In this way if you hook something too big to handle it will simply break your leader line freeing you, and salvaging your handline. Of course, if you would like to try and land a monster (winter 86, Sea Kayaker Magazine has a report of a 120 lb. halibut) then omit the leader. As for keeping fish in the kayak, I have used stringers with good success. I prefer to use a wet burlap sack held under my front deck bunjies, or simply toss the fish into the cockpit with me. Of course with most of my paddling done in bare feet and shorts, when I toss a spiny fish into my cockpit it adds an element of suspense to the trip. Once I even delivered a large live Spiny Lobster to a fellow on shore as a gift from a fisherman who was afraid to through the surf. I tossed the bug into the cockpit with me without thinking. I subsequently did one of the fastest surf landings known to man. But I digress. On one trip I had a large Bonito in a burlap bag on my deck and had a hungry sea lion try to climb onto my deck and take it. I had to fend the sea lion off with my paddle, after which I let him have the fish. He must have needed it more then I did. I have some thoughts on how to fish from a kayak on my web page at; http://members.aol.com/kiayker if anybody is really interested. On the top of the fishing page is a picture of yours truly with a greenling caught off of Vancouver Island a couple of years ago on a handline. Scott So.Cal. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
There's a guy in Pompano Beach called Kayak Willie that fishes from a large plastic double. He hooked a large tuna that dragged him to Ft. Lauderdale (5 or 6 miles) . He eventually landed the fish and slit it's neck and flooded the boat with blood. Sound like fun? cya *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Bob Denton wrote: > There's a guy in Pompano Beach called Kayak Willie that fishes from a > large plastic double. He hooked a large tuna that dragged him to Ft. > Lauderdale (5 or 6 miles) . He eventually landed the fish and slit it's > neck and flooded the boat with blood. Sound like fun? Pure heaven. I'm assuming he was in state waters. I have yet to figure out how to get an Atlantic Tuna permit without a boat registration number. Richard Walker Houston, TX http://www.neosoft.com/~rww/kayak_log.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
A hearty thanks to all of you fishing folks who responded. I think that I'll give wetting a line from my kayak a try. Andrew Jones' comment: "Because there are plenty of black bears where I paddle I always follow some basics when handling fish. I set up the kitchen as far away from the tents as possible and have a set of clothes specifically for fishing and cooking that is stored in a dry bag in my bear cache. I have yet to have a problem with a bear ( or a bear have a problem with me)." These are precautions that I too follow, but I actually experienced an incident on Admiralty Island (SE Alaska) last summer when a bear decided to assert its ownership of the stretch of stream that myself and a buddy were fishing - it didn't have to assert itself very strongly at all and quickly had all the riparian rights it wanted. I'm sure that it eventually found the two nice pink salmon that we had so thoughtfully left lying tethered to the stringer. It sounds as though my concerns about large toothy denizens of the deep swiping my catch are largely unfounded, if I have any experiences that suggest otherwise I'll be sure to post them. Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 08:22 AM 2/16/99 -0900, you wrote: > >It sounds as though my concerns about large toothy denizens of the deep >swiping my catch are largely unfounded, if I have any experiences that >suggest otherwise I'll be sure to post them. > >Dave Seng >Juneau, Alaska > I'm working from memory here, but it seems to me the guide book "Sea Kayaking Canada's West Coast" makes reference to a kayaker losing a lot of flesh off his hand when a hungry seal lunged for the fish the paddler was landing. That said, I do fish from my boat and have for years. I use a low-strength line that will break if I catch anything bigger than I want to land. I mostly catch bottom fish (Ling Cod, Kelp Greenlings) which do not put up much of a fight. I club them with a "fish billy" and put'em on a stringer. As others have mentioned, I fillet them far from the tent, and wash the kayak deck thoroughly afterwards. To take this in another direction, I'm curious about catching crabs (I don't mean the kind you get from careless selection of a tent and/or sleeping bag mate). I have seen full circular tube-and-netting crab traps that disassemble, but they still look a bit big for a long tour, unless you were going to eat crab for every meal. I have recently seen smaller wire mesh folding pyramid traps. The idea seems to be that you lower the baited trap, and hover over it watching until a suitable crab starts to dine, then pull up the trap, which lifts the walls around your dinner guest. Anyone tried one of these? Philip T. N49°16' W123°08' "The opinions expressed in this posting are not necessarily those of my employer, or indeed, of any sentient being." *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Product Information Department wrote: > > I have recently seen smaller wire > mesh folding pyramid traps. The idea seems to be that you lower the baited > trap, and hover over it watching until a suitable crab starts to dine, then > pull up the trap, which lifts the walls around your dinner guest. Anyone > tried one of these? > I've never used one from a boat, but we've used these a lot from piers and bridges. Don't bother watching, if you've got suitable bait, the crabs will come. 2-day-old non-refrigerated chicken necks are the bait of choice around here. Anyway, lower it to the bottom, wait about 2 minutes, and yank it up. The first pull closes the trap, so it needs to be brisk. Another option is to put the chicken neck on a long string with a 2 oz weight and toss it into the creek. Wait a minute, then pull it in real slow. When you can see the crab gnawing on the bait, grab him with a long-handled net. I usually figure about 5 crabs/hungry person. YMMV. Boil up a big pot of 1/3 sea water 2/3 fresh and toss 'em in til they turn red. If you're squeamish, cover your ears so you can't hear the screaming. ;-) Steve -- Test Scoring & Reporting Services Sometimes, you never can University of Georgia always tell what you Athens, GA 30602-5593 least expect the most. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Phillip, In ref. to your question about crab traps, I have used both the folding side and the ring type from small boats in local bays. The way we used then was to bait the traps and attach a float to the pull-up rope and drop several traps in different locations. After 15 min. to a half hour we'd go back, pull up the trap, sort out the under sized and females, andrebait and reset them. Give it a try it works preety well. As to space, you could make a ring style trap that used a fiberglass rod with hooks on the end for the rings so that when not in use all of the trap could be rolled up into a small bundle. P.S. Remember when you attach the float and line to take into account for tides and current, there's nothing so frustrating as watching your float sitting about 15 feet under your boat :-). ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Date sent: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:40:43 +0000 Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Trolling and crabbing? From: James H Ley <leyj_at_juno.com> > In ref. to your question about crab traps, I have used both the folding > side and the ring type from small boats in local bays. The way we used > then was to bait the traps and attach a float to the pull-up rope and > drop several traps in different locations. But watch your local course rules! I have developed a severe allergy to shellfish, so I don't stay on top of the situation here in southeastern Maryland ("Maryland is for Crabs" is a state slogan) but the watermen here might have something to say about trap numbers, etc. I checked our local outfitter in Ridge last night --- the Daniels "small" 12" trap has square bottom and four triangular sides that are drawn up with a cord; $5. Around here, you're a waterman who farms, a farmer who's a waterman, or you work for the Navy. Jack Martin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Are there different types of crabs out there? All edible? (No Jokes Please!) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Sure there are different types of crabs in different areas - in my area (SE Alaska) we have Dungeness, King, and Tanner Crabs - Dungees make the best eating, IMO, although I'm slightly allergic to them and have to use Benadryl to fight the reaction (a case of the reward being worth the risk). A single legally sized Dungeness (6 1/2" across the carapace) makes a good meal for a person. Tanner's tend to be slightly smaller than Dungeness, and King Crab can be HUGE - imagine a crab 3 feet across (leg tip to leg tip). Only males of any species can be harvested. The meat of Tanner and King crab tend to not be as sweet as that of the Dungeness, but they're all good eating. Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Denton [mailto:BDenton_at_aquagulf.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 10:21 AM > To: James H Ley; paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Trolling and crabbing? > > > Are there different types of crabs out there? All edible? (No > Jokes Please!) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Yes and I don't know ---Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com> wrote: > > Are there different types of crabs out there? Yes, many All edible? Don't know > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free _at_yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
>Regarding hooking something bigger than you are -- been there, done that! >In the Broken Group (Barkley Sound, BC), while *bottom fishing*, I snagged >a harbor seal, who took off like a scalded snake, dragging me and my boat >along for a ride. I had to cut the line to avoid a capsize. I've gotten a little interested in the way the Inuit hunt from a kayak -- spears, and that. I keep thinking about building a replica Inuit spear and trying it out. Now, an Inuit hunter would probably want to go out hunting seals, but seals are an endangered species around southern Michigan, the last one in these parts having been seen about the time the glaciers receded. However, one of the local lakes have some carp that approach seal size . . . hmmmmmmm. Does anyone actually know anything about making or using an Inuit spear? -- Wes *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 10:18 PM 2/17/99, Wes Boyd wrote: >Does anyone actually know anything about making or using an Inuit >spear? No, but I'm pretty sure it's legal hunt (fish?) carp with a bow . . . For what that's worth. ByeBye! S. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 2/17/99 6:14:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, boydwe_at_dmci.net writes: << Does anyone actually know anything about making or using an Inuit spear? >> As I have mentioned before on this list, I do have a spear and atlatl/norsaq/throwing board (whatever) that I play with in and out of my kayak. I have also used it for fishing. Or rather I should say that I have on numerous occasions attempted to use it for fishing. I actually hit a good sized mullet once, but was unable to land it. That was before I switched to a detachable fishing point. Now I'm ready. I think "hunting" carp sounds like a great deal of fun. You should understand, however, that the Inuit used a variety of different types of spears for different situations and game. What you should do (as I have) is design a spear to suit your purposes and go with that, rather then try and adapt something which was designed for hunting seals to use on fish. Happy hunting, Scott So.Cal. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
From: KiAyker_at_aol.com Date sent: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:54:35 EST To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Trolling > I think "hunting" carp sounds like a great deal of fun. You should > understand, however, that the Inuit used a variety of different types of > spears for different situations and game. What you should do (as I have) is > design a spear to suit your purposes and go with that, rather then try and > adapt something which was designed for hunting seals to use on fish. Maybe one of those dynamite spears? They'd be pretty effective, and accuracy is less of an issue. Just don't get it stuck in the pegs before you release it! Jack *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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