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From: <HTERVORT_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Wasa Bogo?
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:19:57 EST
Paddlewisers,

Wanting a good current table example for a sea kayaking course I teach, I
accessed the TideX program at <A HREF="http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/tide/nph-
tideshow.cgi">Tide/Current Predictor</A> and looked up the current tables for
Deception Pass, WA.  The tables show biiiiiig numbers and the footnote "Units
of estimates are bogo-knots."  This is a term I've never found before.  

Could anyone define "bogo-knots" for me, or refer me to a site with that info?

Note:  Bogo-knots should not be confused with "Bozo-knots" -- a unit of
measure used for gauging the speed of micro-sized kayaks paddled by orange-
haired clowns.

Thanks again,
Harold Tervort
So. Cal.
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From: Jim Champoux <jim_at_sigall.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wasa Bogo?
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:27:04 -0400
harold wrote...
snip

>Note:  Bogo-knots should not be confused with "Bozo-knots" -- a unit of
>measure used for gauging the speed of micro-sized kayaks paddled by orange-
>haired clowns.

Sorry Harold, looks like your wrong again, "bogo-knots" are, in fact,
"bozo-knots", yep, one-in-the-same.

Apparently the colloquial mis-pronunciation stems from the term often being
heard through a mouth full of the kayakers staple food, saltines and peanut
butter.


:) Jim



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From: Robert Woodard <woodardr_at_tidalwave.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Wasa Bogo?
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:19:35 -0500
>> Could anyone define "bogo-knots" for me, or refer me to a site
> with that info?

>From the XTide FAQ:

Q: What are bogo-knots?

A: Way back before I found out that hydraulic current stations generate
results that are actually in units of knots squared, I didn't know what
units they were, so I called them "bogo-knots." Since that time, I have (1)
changed the units in my source data to knots squared, and (2) added
functionality to XTide version 2 to convert these to regular knots.
Therefore, if you are still seeing bogo-knots, then you are definitely using
obsolete data and an obsolete version of XTide, or accessing a web site that
is using obsolete data and an obsolete version of XTide. I am not the
maintainer of any such web sites, and I recommend upgrading to XTide 2,
which will barf all over any harmonics files that still contain
"bogo-knots."

http://www.universe.digex.net/~dave/xtide/faq.html

Woody



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From: Jim Champoux <jim_at_sigall.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Wasa Bogo?
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:31:03 -0400
I stand corrected


>>> Could anyone define "bogo-knots" for me, or refer me to a site
>> with that info?
>
>>From the XTide FAQ:
>
>Q: What are bogo-knots?
>
>A: Way back before I found out that hydraulic current stations generate
>results that are actually in units of knots squared, I didn't know what
>units they were, so I called them "bogo-knots." Since that time, I have (1)
>changed the units in my source data to knots squared, and (2) added
>functionality to XTide version 2 to convert these to regular knots.
>Therefore, if you are still seeing bogo-knots, then you are definitely using
>obsolete data and an obsolete version of XTide, or accessing a web site that
>is using obsolete data and an obsolete version of XTide. I am not the
>maintainer of any such web sites, and I recommend upgrading to XTide 2,
>which will barf all over any harmonics files that still contain
>"bogo-knots."


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From: Michael R Noyes <mnoyes_at_gsinet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wasa Bogo?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:11:54 -0400
> Q: What are bogo-knots?
>
> A: Way back before I found out that hydraulic current stations generate
> results that are actually in units of knots squared, I didn't know what
> units they were, so I called them "bogo-knots."
>

Does this make them square knots?
Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Mike


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visible, your reverie is abruptly shattered by the ancient cry of a great
blue heron as she lifts uncertainly from the brilliant blue of a
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From: <HTERVORT_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wasa Bogo?
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 03:13:26 EST
Duh . . . .   So *that's* what a FAQ is.  Thanks Woody.  I figured it was 
probably a really dumb thing to ask.  One of these days I'll learn how to 
navigate this machine beyond the Dilbert page. :-)  

Now, if I could just figure out how to get these saltine crumbs and peanut 
butter out of the keyboard . . . 

Harold
Chagrined in So. Cal.

In a message dated 4/1/99 1:20:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
woodardr_at_tidalwave.net writes:

<< >> Could anyone define "bogo-knots" for me, or refer me to a site
 > with that info?
 
 >From the XTide FAQ:
 
 Q: What are bogo-knots?
 
 A: Way back before I found out that hydraulic current stations generate
 results that are actually in units of knots squared, I didn't know what
 units they were, so I called them "bogo-knots."  >>

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From: <MadPoodle_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wasa Bogo?
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 05:50:31 EST
Isnt the bogo knot used to keep the anykey attached to my keyboard??

Scott

Not chagrinned just north of Cuba
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