I would like to build a skinboat racer. Can anybody steer me to some plans? On-line would be great. Thx *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi- After building a Ches. Light Craft last spring, I have also started to look at building a skin-on-frame boat this winter. There are a lot of resources out there, and a good place to start is here: http://www.cstone.net/users/winter/Native.htm === * Reply back to me at: hudsonsb_at_aol.com (home) or hudsonsb_at_yahoo.com (work) or both! ---------------------------------------------- See you on the river! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Ed, Haven't seen many non-native skin boats that aren't foldables. However, you'd probably end up constructing a racing style skin boat in the same manner as a cedar strip boat; stations mounted on a strongback. With that in mind, find a strip-design suitable for racing and substitute three or four or five stringers to approximate the below waterline profile. Julio McWilliams, who's also on this list, did just that: built the wood boat, then notched the stations to accept the skin boat stringers. There's a picture of both somewhere on one of the kayak building web sites. Best of luck! Jeff *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, E. Sullivan wrote: > I would like to build a skinboat racer. Can anybody steer me > to some plans? On-line would be great. I'm assuming your are looking for a skin on frame fast kayak. One source of online info is the searchable archives of the baidarka mailing list at http://robroy.totalsports.net/baidarka As for a fast boat I would look at getting the plans for George Dyson's 5.7 meter Shields interpretation or possibly the aleut single which is detailed in David Zimmerly's Qajaq. The caribou hunting kayak, at 24'+ by 15" might be another option. Or you could design your own. A friend, Bill Low, has a baidarka interpretation that is quite quick, his current boats are wider than a racer though. I've got a couple of pictures of his boat at http://people.ne.mediaone.net/jkolsen/html/excal_details.html I believe the pictured boat is 18' with a 22" beam and weighs 28 pounds. The basic aleut baidarka shape works well for a fast boat. Bill has built a whole mess of skin boats. One of his previous designs had a simplified baidarka bow with a greenland style stern. That was an interesting boat to paddle, it paddled well at relaxed touring speeds but felt like it was doing a tailstand if you tried to paddle it fast. Bill replaced the greenland style stern with a baidarka style stern which was greatly improved, the boat stayed at a nice trim even while sprinting. Both boats looked to be properly trimmed when at rest with a paddler in them. I built one of the Dyson 5.7 boats. I made a couple of mistakes building it so it's not a raceable boat, in particular the nylon/hypalon skin loosens up when it's in the water. kirk occaisional canoe/kayak/surfski racer and admin for the baidarka mailing list *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
The software needed to design an especially fast kayak hull is available free at our website. Matt Broze http://www.marinerkayaks.com -----Original Message----- From: Kirk Olsen <kolsen_at_imagelan.com> To: E. Sullivan <sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org> Cc: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net> Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Skinboat Racer RFP (request for plans) >On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, E. Sullivan wrote: > >> I would like to build a skinboat racer. Can anybody steer me >> to some plans? On-line would be great. > >I'm assuming your are looking for a skin on frame fast kayak. > >One source of online info is the searchable archives of the baidarka >mailing list at http://robroy.totalsports.net/baidarka > >As for a fast boat I would look at getting the plans for George Dyson's >5.7 meter Shields interpretation or possibly the aleut single which >is detailed in David Zimmerly's Qajaq. The caribou hunting kayak, at 24'+ >by 15" might be another option. > >Or you could design your own. A friend, Bill Low, has a baidarka >interpretation that is quite quick, his current boats are wider than a >racer though. I've got a couple of pictures of his boat at >http://people.ne.mediaone.net/jkolsen/html/excal_details.html >I believe the pictured boat is 18' with a 22" beam and weighs 28 pounds. > >The basic aleut baidarka shape works well for a fast boat. Bill has built a >whole mess of skin boats. One of his previous designs had a simplified >baidarka bow with a greenland style stern. That was an interesting boat >to paddle, it paddled well at relaxed touring speeds but felt like it was >doing a tailstand if you tried to paddle it fast. Bill replaced the >greenland style stern with a baidarka style stern which was greatly >improved, the boat stayed at a nice trim even while sprinting. Both boats >looked to be properly trimmed when at rest with a paddler in them. > >I built one of the Dyson 5.7 boats. I made a couple of mistakes building it >so it's not a raceable boat, in particular the nylon/hypalon skin loosens up >when it's in the water. > >kirk >occaisional canoe/kayak/surfski racer and admin for the baidarka mailing list >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >*************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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