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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 16:31:16 -0400
I have a spare Primax cart which has only been used a couple of times
gathering dust in the garage. I'm asking $95 plus shipping. 

http://www.deluge.com/transport/kayak_cart.htm

cya

Bob Denton 
Aqua-Gulf Transport
bdenton_at_aquagulf.com 
www.aquagulf.com <http://www.aquagulf.com> 



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From: Corbett House <corbetthouse_at_home.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] 2 White Water Kayaks for sale
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 19:17:12 -0700
Hello List,
I have two used Whitewater Kayaks for sale I am in the San Francisco Bay
Area email me off list if you are interested corbetthouse_at_home.com
Perception Pirouette Pro-Line like new hardly used $700.00 (Grey and Purple)
Perception Corsica S very used but in good shape  $300.00 (Green)
Thanks
Corbett House



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From: Bill Leonhardt <WJLeonhardt_at_bnl.gov>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:13:28 -0400
Bob,

If you don't think it would hurt sales, I would like to hear what you think
of the cart, pro & con.

Thanks,

Bill Leonhardt


At 04:31 PM 7/19/00 -0400, Bob Denton wrote:
>I have a spare Primax cart which has only been used a couple of times
>gathering dust in the garage. I'm asking $95 plus shipping. 
>
>http://www.deluge.com/transport/kayak_cart.htm
>
>cya
>
>Bob Denton 
>Aqua-Gulf Transport
>bdenton_at_aquagulf.com 
>www.aquagulf.com <http://www.aquagulf.com> 
>
>
>
 >
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From: Eric Crampton <eric_at_atdesk.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: 24 Jul 2000 14:39:44 -0400
> At 04:31 PM 7/19/00 -0400, Bob Denton wrote:
> >http://www.deluge.com/transport/kayak_cart.htm
>
> If you don't think it would hurt sales, I would like to hear what
> you think of the cart, pro & con.

We have two of these carts. I've not used any other carts except
these to any extent. I like the cart, my favorite feature is that the
wheels are extremely easy to take off, requiring no tools. The cart,
sans wheels, fits in my hatch, too, so I can wheel the boat to the
beach without having to walk back to the car to stash the cart. It
works reasonably well on powdery sand, too, and works great on
concrete.

My biggest gripe about this cart is that it's a bit difficult to
really get the straps tight enough everytime. This could be user
error, perhaps there's a better way to do it that I don't know about.

Again, my likes and dislikes could be a bit irrelevant since I haven't
really used any other cart to much of a degree. But, we like ours and
couldn't do without them!

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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:20:05 -0400
At 02:39 PM 7/24/00 -0400, Eric Crampton wrote:
>> At 04:31 PM 7/19/00 -0400, Bob Denton wrote:
>> >http://www.deluge.com/transport/kayak_cart.htm
>>
>> If you don't think it would hurt sales, I would like to hear what
>> you think of the cart, pro & con.
>
>We have two of these carts. I've not used any other carts except
>these to any extent. I like the cart, my favorite feature is that the
>wheels are extremely easy to take off, requiring no tools. The cart,
>sans wheels, fits in my hatch, too, so I can wheel the boat to the
>beach without having to walk back to the car to stash the cart.

This is a really good feature for a cart.  I used to live just a block and
a half from a place where I could put in.   I built a cart for carrying my
kayak down to the put in.  After rolling it down and putting the kayak in
the water I'd "stash" it under a tree in a spot that wasn't really visible
unless you climbed down the bank.  After paddling one day I came back to
find that someone had taken the cart.  I doubt that they even knew what it
was used for.  Carrying a heavy british boat a block and a half is *no fun*.

>Again, my likes and dislikes could be a bit irrelevant since I haven't
>really used any other cart to much of a degree. But, we like ours and
>couldn't do without them!

One of the other nice features of a cart is one that will mount near the
middle of the boat rather than sliding onto the end.  That way you're only
pulling the boat and not lifting *and*
pulling.

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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:33:07 -0400
It's a great cart and I use mine often. Although it has wide pneumatic
tires, they are not really designed for the soft sand we have here in SFla.
I'm going to purchase one of the carts with the big balloon tires which
specifically designed for beach use only. My wife won't let me have 3! 

It's well built, fits my boats well and is a pleasure on dirt, grass,
pavement or hard sand. No downsides that I can think of. It breaks down
quickly and easily and fits in the rear hatch of my Nordkapp. 

I have a number of homemade carts but haven't used any of them since
acquiring my Primax.

cu

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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:04:42 -0400
I don't use straps. I have bunjii tied to one side with large adjustable
plastic hooks on the other. Quick and easy and holds well. I can adjust the
length of the bunjii as required at the hooks.

cya



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From: <LedJube_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:22:46 EDT
In a message dated 7/24/00 7:25:12 PM, jaf30_at_cornell.edu writes:

<< Carrying a heavy british boat a block and a half is *no fun*. >>

    I have had the recent misfortune to need to carry my Explorer loaded for 
day trip leading. I had to carry that beast only about 100 yds over mixed 
terrain, but it might as well have been a mile. Some of my less decrepit 
paddle mates offered to help, but I stuck to my ridiculous notion that each 
person should carry his/her own boat. 
    Moral of the story??:  Bob, will that cart fit into the back hatch of a 
Romany Explorer?

jed (now looking even more like a speed bump) luby
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From: Sailboat Restorations, Inc. <sailboatrestorations_at_worldnet.att.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 03:38:49 -0400
>     Moral of the story??:  Bob, will that cart fit into the back hatch of
a
> Romany Explorer?

Real moral of the story: get a boat that was built with modern techniques
and doesnt' need to weigh 100 pounds to have structural integrity.
Mark (revealing anti-Brit prejudice -- in good humor)

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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:24:52 -0400
It fits through a VCP oval hatch.

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    Moral of the story??:  Bob, will that cart fit into the back hatch of a 
Romany Explorer?

jed (now looking even more like a speed bump) luby

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From: <KayakherSC_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:30:33 EDT
I love my Primex cart for it's functional qualities in my neck of the river.  
I stash the tires in the rear hatch of my Sparrow Hawk, which has an oval VCP 
hatch cover, but the folded frame doesn't fit inside.  It's no problem for me 
to secure it with the deck bungees.  I live near the water, so I use it quite 
often.  Sandy
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From: Doug Lloyd <dlloyd_at_telus.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:28:44 -0700
Bob Denton said:
<snip>
I have a number of homemade carts but haven't used any of them since
acquiring my Primax.

I met a fellow this weekend (he just bought a red Kevlar Gulfstream with
graphite reinforcing in the deck - what a beautiful kayak) who has gone
through 3 Primex carts in one and a half years (on third one). The axle
is thin walled aluminum. The plastic wheels wears right through the
aluminum in no time. He had one of the old ones there, and displayed it
proudly as proof to the world that a product with so much hype can be so
poorly designed. Just an observation.

BC's Ya
Doug Lloyd (who says real men carry their sea kayaks - when their backs
aren't hurting too much :-) )



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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:17:35 -0400
Had mine a year or so with no appreciable wear. I do rinse it after every
use.

cu



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From: Doug Lloyd <dlloyd_at_telus.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 06:15:20 -0700
Bob Denton wrote:

> Had mine a year or so with no appreciable wear. I do rinse it after every
> use.

That might be the ticket. Lubrication may also be an important consideration.
The fellow with the worn cart said the problem ensues mostly from carting his
fully laden kayak, not so much from quick trips -- but, he does paddle 5 days
a week minimum. (He is an older fellow, in marvelous shape; paddles with a
heart monitor, deck mounted GPS, and keeps a good clip at 5 knots in the
Gulfstream with Greg Barton paddle. It never fails to impress me how some
people embrace sea kayaking as a lifestyle choice toward better health and
happiness in such complete ways).

Anyway, the wear on the axles was pretty bad.

BC'in Ya
Doug Lloyd

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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kayak Cart for Sale
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:48:52 -0400
If mine fits in the Nordkapp, yours should probably fit. You just have to
play with it a little.

cya

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