Somebody mentioned searching for a good packable pillow. It ain't a big fluffy eiderdown, but the little horseshoe-shaped inflatable you find in airports and travel stores works well for me. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 01:19 PM 8/14/00 -0700,sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org wrote: >Somebody mentioned searching for a good packable pillow. It >ain't a big fluffy eiderdown, but the little >horseshoe-shaped inflatable you find in airports and travel >stores works well for me. > How about an paddlefloat stuffed inside a pile shirt. It gives you a daily check that the float doesn't leak. Bill Leonhardt *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Bill Leonhardt wrote: > How about an paddlefloat stuffed inside a pile shirt. It gives you a daily > check that the float doesn't leak. This is as good a time as any to bring up Audrey Sutherland's dictum that everything you bring camping be able to serve at least 3 purposes. I don't have her book, Paddling In Paradise, in which I believe this is mentioned. And while I once did listen to her lecture/demonstrate at LL Bean years ago, outdoors under a tree, I must admit that I was so intoxicated by her that her words were lost. An amazing person!!! If anyone has notes from her lecture or other source, please share some of the triple duty stuff she carries. On Bill's point, the paddle float could serve three purposes: as a paddlefloat: as a camp seat; and as a tent pillow. You could even make a fourth duty: I know some people who use a paddlefloat as a lumbar support while paddling. A fifth duty: use it as a football for beach play. Lest I get a bunch of lectures about not monkeying with an item that is a safety device...yes, I know, I know. So, let's here your triple duty item thoughts. ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>Bill Leonhardt wrote: > >> How about an paddlefloat stuffed inside a pile shirt. It gives you a daily >> check that the float doesn't leak. ralph diaz wrote:>On Bill's point, the paddle float could serve three purposes: as a >paddlefloat: as a camp seat; and as a tent pillow. You could even make >a fourth duty: I know some people who use a paddlefloat as a lumbar >support while paddling. A fifth duty: use it as a football for beach >play. Lest I get a bunch of lectures about not monkeying with an item >that is a safety device...yes, I know, I know. > >So, let's here your triple duty item thoughts. > >ralph diaz >-- One thing you have to remember with anything that is inflatable, paddle float, thermarest matress fixed in a chair, if you are around a camp fire it could get a spark on it and you are out a item till it is fixed Dana *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On the pillow thing - my sleeping bag stuff sack, filled with appropriate choice of clothes for desired stiffness works quite well. Another double duty item, that I have enjoyed - is my PWS kayak seat that is a single unit that can be removed from the kayak and used as a beach/camping seat - works for me. ><snip> >So, let's here your triple duty item thoughts. > >ralph diaz >-- Sam Isaacs saisaacs_at_netcom.ca *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 05:15 PM 8/14/00 -0700, ralph diaz wrote: >On Bill's point, the paddle float could serve three purposes: as a >paddlefloat: as a camp seat; and as a tent pillow. You could even make >a fourth duty: I know some people who use a paddlefloat as a lumbar >support while paddling. A fifth duty: use it as a football for beach >play. Since Audrey uses a foil bag from a box-o-wine for the paddlefloat/camp seat/pillow/lumbar support the original contents of the bag serves a purpose as well. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
John Fereira wrote: but first, ralph diaz wrote: > >>On Bill's point, the paddle float could serve three purposes: as a >>paddlefloat: as a camp seat; and as a tent pillow. You could even >>make >>a fourth duty: I know some people who use a paddlefloat as a lumbar >>support while paddling. A fifth duty: use it as a football for >>beach >>play. > >Since Audrey uses a foil bag from a box-o-wine for the >paddlefloat/camp >seat/pillow/lumbar support the original contents of the bag serves a >purpose as well. Although any paddle float should be well made, and it's nice to be resourceful, I do still question the wisdom of using a possibly essential piece of safety equipment so freely for other uses. Though they may seem quite harmless, accidents do happen, and I'd hate to be without a paddle float just because of something that happened to it while it was being used for something unrelated to it's primary purpose. The more things it's used for, the more possibilities exist for it to be somehow damaged. So far, I haven't had to use mine in an actual emergency, but I don't doubt that someday I will. I do test it regularly to make sure it's sound, but other than that, I don't use it for anything else. Besides, Taking along a warm and comfy fleece pillow case that can be filled with a piece of warm clothing is far more comfortable, and doesn't really take up any real space, or weigh enough to be of any concern. just my $0.27 (inflation, plus tax) Melissa *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I raised this very same point about using a paddle float or any rescue stuff for anything but its intended purpose, i.e. safety. Looking back at my statement about this plus my suggestions about using a paddle float for a whole lot of other purposes, I think it is best to remove vital safety devices from gear serving double or triple duty. A related issue, sitting on your PFD. While innocuous enough, sitting on one will eventually break down the foam and lead to an early demise in the vital flotation. Also wear and tear on the nylon or cordura covering material. Rock climbers carefully take care of their climbing ropes. They don't use them to play tug-of-war, tie down ladders to their car roofs etc. We should be doing the same with PFDs and paddle floats and tow ropes, among other things. For example, I have a set of lights that I have with me for night paddling. I tend not to count them in the inventory of camping lights, i.e. I have sets for both. Of course, if need a light for seeing something and don't have another light around, I will use one of the ones from my kayaking lighting system. ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, ralph diaz wrote: > This is as good a time as any to bring up Audrey Sutherland's dictum > that everything you bring camping be able to serve at least 3 purposes. > I don't have her book, Paddling In Paradise, in which I believe this is > mentioned. > > If anyone has notes from her lecture or other source, please share some > of the triple duty stuff she carries. The only two I remember are the foil wine bladder, and a condom. Condom usage - turniquet, small water flask, band for a slingshot. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 08/15/2000 9:37:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kolsen_at_imagelan.com writes: << Condom usage - turniquet, small water flask, band for a slingshot. >> Surely there's a fourth use? :) sandy kramer *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Kirk Olsen wrote: > > > > If anyone has notes from her lecture or other source, please share some > > of the triple duty stuff she carries. > > The only two I remember are the foil wine bladder, and a condom. > > Condom usage - turniquet, small water flask, band for a slingshot. I think my response to Kirk will be with a comment of Rick S.'s. > It would seem to me that we'd want to be > overly cautious and protective of our safety equipment. (the postmodern approach of appropriation and re-contextualization) -- : : Gabriel L Romeu : http://studiofurniture.com furniture from the workshop : http://members.xoom.com/gabrielR life as a tourist, daily journal : http://studiofurniture.com/paint paintings, photographs, etchings, objects *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
My favorite pieces of "triple duty" gear are as follows: a. a hammock -good for (1) morning nap (2) afternoon nap (3) after supper nap 8-> b. an aluminum 10 inch Dutch Oven -good for (1) breakfast (2) dinner (3) supper 8-> 8-> c. a large capacity wine caddy -good for (1) cooking (2) drinking (3) star gazing 8-> 8-> 8-> Sorry for all the nonsense, but this has turned into a much too long day .... ...adieu ...Peyton (Louisiana) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"E. Sullivan" wrote: > > Somebody mentioned searching for a good packable pillow. It > ain't a big fluffy eiderdown, but the little > horseshoe-shaped inflatable you find in airports and travel > stores works well for me. I use a small dry bag, which is normally stuffed with my "emergency" dry clothing for use if I get stuck somewhere while paddling on a day trip, and slide a 100-weight fleece top over it for a pillow slip. This makes for a **very** firm pillow, perhaps not what most people want. The main advantage is that nothing extra is needed, and it is a unit that never gets disturbed under normal circumstances. What's in my "emergency" dry clothes bag? Glad you asked: fleece top, fleece pants (both 100 weight), rain pants, fleece hat, and a bug hat. Do not need rain jacket, 'cause my paddle jacket is waterproof. Do not need a rain hat, 'cause that's in the cockpit, also. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>Somebody mentioned searching for a good packable pillow. I've always used either a paddle float (inflated about half way) or a dry bag that house clothing, which is normally in the tent taking up room anyway. Arthur Hebert *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
<searching for a good packable pillow>..... A paddlefloat with just a touch of air in it works fine for me. Bill Hansen Ithaca NY *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I use a $2.50 Wal-Mart travel pillow and a $2.50 Wal-Mart travel pillowcase. A little large, but more comfy than my tiny packable Slumberjack pillow. -Bob Bill Hansen wrote: > > <searching for a good packable pillow>..... A paddlefloat with just a touch > of air in it works fine for me. > > Bill Hansen > Ithaca NY *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Camp Pillow > Bill Hansen wrote: > > > > <searching for a good packable pillow>..... A paddlefloat with just a touch > > of air in it works fine for me. I use the sleeping bag cover, stuffed with some clothes (polar fleece jacket for comfort) and the paddle float. By adding or letting out air in the float, you can control the hardness - size of the pillow. More comfortable then the one I use at home - or is it because more exhausted when touring? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I purchased a pillow from Campmor which has an inflatable center covered with foam and a fleece outer covering. It packs small and is VERY comfortable. In Florida, we don't travel with any soft stuff to fill a dry bag. cya *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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