I want to add deck lines to my plastic decklineless boat. I will probably use 6mm nylon kermantle (rock climbers rope). My problem is the clips. Where can I get them? My boat is by Perception. Perception told me they won't sell them to me, and to get them locally. West Marine had something good for about a 3/8" line, but nothing smaller. Any ideas? If not, I'm going to have to go back to Perception and hound them till they send me some clips. Would any other manufacturers sell some clips to me. They need to be surface mount, not in a recess. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Tom wrote: > I want to add deck lines to my plastic decklineless boat. I will probably use 6mm nylon kermantle (rock climbers rope). My problem is the clips. Where can I get them? My boat is by Perception. Perception told me they won't sell them to me, and to get them locally. West Marine had something good for about a 3/8" line, but nothing smaller. Any ideas? If not, I'm going to have to go back to Perception and hound them till they send me some clips. Would any other manufacturers sell some clips to me. They need to be surface mount, not in a recess. > > Try to find a store that sells Kajak Sport products. They sell deck line clips that should work for you. You may have to get the store ot order them, but they are available. Mike -- Paddling along through fog so thick that only one's thoughts are visible, your reverie is abruptly shattered by the ancient cry of a great blue heron as she lifts uncertainly from the brilliant blue of a mussel-shell beach witnessed only by the brooding, wet spruce....your passage home seems as much back through time as it does through space. Mark H Hunt *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:28:13 -0700 (PDT), Tom wrote: >I want to add deck lines to my plastic decklineless boat. I will >probably use 6mm nylon kermantle (rock climbers rope). My problem >is the clips. Where can I get them? My boat is by Perception. >Perception told me they won't sell them to me, and to get them >locally. West Marine had something good for about a 3/8" line, but >nothing smaller. Any ideas? If not, I'm going to have to go back >to Perception and hound them till they send me some clips. Would >any other manufacturers sell some clips to me. They need to be >surface mount, not in a recess. > Hi Tom, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by *clips*. Do you mean the little nylon pad-eyes? (the little loops that bungies are often threaded through on deck). Or do you mean something more like a biner arrangement for doubling up lengths of line? Are you wanting to install perimeter lines? Tow lines? Or bungie rigging fore and aft for things like holding charts, deck bags, securing paddle floats, etc.? In any case, I know of at least one place you could order most miscellaneous hardware items from online - they're in Seattle. Northwest Outdoor Center (NWOC). Their web site is: http://www.nwoc.com (I'm not affiliated with them in any way - except that I've bought a lot of gear from them). Good luck! Melissa *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 01:23 AM 8/16/00 -0700, Melissa Reese wrote: >On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:28:13 -0700 (PDT), Tom wrote: > >>I want to add deck lines to my plastic decklineless boat. I will >>probably use 6mm nylon kermantle (rock climbers rope). My problem >>is the clips. Where can I get them? My boat is by Perception. >>Perception told me they won't sell them to me, and to get them >>locally. West Marine had something good for about a 3/8" line, but >>nothing smaller. Any ideas? If not, I'm going to have to go back >>to Perception and hound them till they send me some clips. Would >>any other manufacturers sell some clips to me. They need to be >>surface mount, not in a recess. >> > >Hi Tom, > >I'm not sure exactly what you mean by *clips*. Do you mean the >little nylon pad-eyes? (the little loops that bungies are often >threaded through on deck). I bought some of these nylon pad-eyes at a local marine shop. They had a few of them in white but not enough to complete my Northbay so I got a bunch of blacks ones that come in little 4 packs. Some people might think it's a bit too thin but I used parachute cord for the deckline itselt and bought it at a outdoor store for about $6 for a 50' length. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Tom wrote: > > I want to add deck lines to my plastic decklineless boat. I will probably use 6mm nylon kermantle (rock climbers rope). My problem is the clips. Where can I get them? My boat is by Perception. Perception told me they won't sell them to me, and to get them locally. West Marine had something good for about a 3/8" line, but nothing smaller. NOC sells little P-shaped fittings that are used to hold flotation rigging in WW canoes. I used some to extend the deck rigging on my Sea Lion. NOC's go for about $0.75 each. Home Depot sells the same piece of equipment to be used to hold electric wire for about a dime. Your call. Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Tom wrote, "I want to add deck lines to my plastic decklineless boat." One good source in the Chesapeake Bay area for any kind of specialized hardware is Annapolis Performance Sailing (www.apsltd.com). Their web site is a bit of a kluge at the moment, but there's info and a toll free number to call. Nice folks, good stuff --- aimed at the racing sailboat market, which is a nice segment in Annapolis --- but I've found a lot of good read-across equipment there. Good luck. --- Then, there's always Defender Marine. Used to be in New Rochelle, not too far from Brooklyn, now in Connecticut somewhere. Again, anything you can imagine for boats, only a wider market segment. Jack *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
<< Tom wrote, "I want to add deck lines to my plastic decklineless boat." >> Tom, I believe the problem is that Perception will not sell directly to you. You can purchase from a Perception dealer. Is this correct? Bruce McC WEO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
The padeye clips sold in marine stores are identical to those installed on many boats at the factory. I wouldn't use robe that too small in diameter, as you will hurt your hand in rough conditions. I have used braided polypro rope in the past. It has a little stretch which can be a benefit. cya *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Steve wrote: > NOC sells little P-shaped fittings that are used to hold flotation > rigging in WW canoes. I used some to extend the deck rigging on my Sea > Lion. > > NOC's go for about $0.75 each. Home Depot sells the same piece of > equipment to be used to hold electric wire for about a dime. Your call. > Tom: remember that these lines are for rescues -- someone who is as heavy as you, or even heavier, will be holding these lines as he/she tries to hoist body and soul onto the deck. Also, these lines might be used for towing. Given the intended use, be sure that the deck fittings you use are up to the stress. Seems to me the fittings that Steve referred to might be too weak. Bob V *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: "Tom" <tombrooklyn_at_yahoo.com> > I want to add deck lines to my plastic decklineless boat. I will > probably use 6mm nylon kermantle (rock climbers rope). I would not recommend nylon kernmantle line. It will stretch considerably when wet. Stick with polyester. The stuff in the marine shops is available in the same bright colors as the climbing stuff. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Bob Volin wrote: > > Steve wrote: > > NOC sells little P-shaped fittings that are used to hold flotation > > rigging in WW canoes. I used some to extend the deck rigging on my Sea > > Lion. > > > Tom: remember that these lines are for rescues -- someone who is as heavy > as you, or even heavier, will be holding these lines as he/she tries to > hoist body and soul onto the deck. Also, these lines might be used for > towing. Given the intended use, be sure that the deck fittings you use are > up to the stress. Seems to me the fittings that Steve referred to might be > too weak. Bob's point is well taken. My boat has been endoed with someone holding the line near the clip, but that's only one data point. I think I'll try to do a failure test on a couple of them. Of course, I'm no engineer. Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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