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From: Evan Dallas <Evan_Dallas_at_notes.ntrs.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Chasing Leaks
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:30:16 -0700
Dave Kruger wrote:
<big snip>
>   ...Some water appeared forward ... more or less at the position
>of the screws which hold my rudder pedal track on that side.
>
>Tightened all those screws and tried the same water injection, same site, and
>could not see any more water inside.  So I put a couple gallons inside the yak
>and rolled it back and forth over the areas I had just tested and looked for
>water outside the hull.  None.  Have I fixed this thing?
>
>Anybody had this problem on an Eddyline ... and identified the source of the
>leak?

Dave -- This probably won't be much (if any) help, but for what it's worth, I
also have an Eddyline (an old Calypso) with EXACTLY the same symptoms you
describe.   Except it sounds like mine leaks a little worse.  I also determined
that the screws holding the rudder pedal track were leaking, so I put rubber
gaskets under them which seemed to stop that leak, but merely reduced the
problem.  I've put it up on saw horses and it seems tight as a drum.  The path
that water has to follow to get in thru the rudder cables seems so long and
tight that I don't see how this could account for much more than a few
teaspoons.  I more or less (by process of elimination) concluded it had to be my
spray skirt and resigned myself to that, but if you can find a definitive answer
I'd be very interested in hearing it!

Evan
Woodinville, WA


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From: Chuck Holst <cholst_at_bitstream.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Chasing Leaks
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:04:44 -0500
>>
Dave - As so often happens, I forgot one of the most important things when 
I
wrote my last post. Be absolutlely sure that the boat is very well 
supported
when you do your tests. I know that you've already thought of this - but 
the
spectre of a boat deforming under the stress of water inside it and poor
support outside it gives me the shivers. It might not happen - but it's so
easy to prevent....

Bill Hansen
Ithaca NY
>>

This happened to me. Looking for the source of a leak, which later turned 
out to be in the hatch rim, I filled the forward compartment of my Romany 
with water while it sat in its saddles on the car. I now have two sets of 
slight but noticeable dents where the Romany rested on the saddles. I 
didn't think it was possible to *dent* a heavy-duty fiberglass hull.

BTW, a common source of leaks in Romanys, I have discovered, is the 
Kajaksport hatch rims, which are glued to the fiberglass deck of the kayak. 
I've even heard a rumor of rims coming off. If water can find its way 
between the deck and the rim, it will. I fixed this problem on Linda's and 
my Romanys by running a thin bead of Aquaseal (which is urethane-based) 
around the edge of the rim where it meets the deck. Linda's forward 
compartment, which had started leaking up to a cup of water during rolling 
sessions, is now bone-dry again, and my forward hatch cover now balloons 
under the hot sun for the first time in years (my leak was only a few 
ounces). I should note that, as opposed to the seal between the rim and the 
deck, the seal between the rim and the original covers remains good after 
six seasons, much of it spent in the sun.

Don't bother running a bead of Aquaseal around the inside of the rim, as it 
will rub off when you stuff gear inside.

Chuck Holst


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From: Bill Hansen <bhansen2_at_twcny.rr.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Chasing Leaks
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:23:38 -0400
Evan writes, RE: leak in Eddyline kayak, after careful testing   <I more or
less (by process of elimination) concluded it had to be my spray skirt >

IMO - That's not an unreasonable source of modest leakage. I also get a
little bit of leakage during rolling practice, which I believe comes in at
the point where sprayskirt meets coaming. Doesn't everyone?

Bill Hansen
Ithaca NY

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From: <LedJube_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Chasing Leaks
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 23:05:05 EDT
In a message dated 8/31/00 11:33:22 PM, bhansen2_at_twcny.rr.com writes:

<< I also get a little bit of leakage during rolling practice, which I 
believe comes in at the point where sprayskirt meets coaming. Doesn't 
everyone? >>

God Save The Queen !!

    Alas, the coaming on my beloved NDK Explorer is not the most watertight 
design. Glad to hear I'm not the only one getting wet from the bottom up and 
from the inside out. I've resigned myself to the fact (at least for me) that 
there is no such thing as a dry kayak or a perfect spray-deck-to-boat or 
spray-deck-to-pilot seal.

Jed      (Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.    Once I again, I'm all wet)



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