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From: WhiteRabbit <whiterabbit_at_empowering.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Need Substitute for Patuxent 19.5
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 00:12:52 -0600
 Finally got around to ordering a Patuxent 19.5 from CLC only to find out
 that they discontinued it!

 Any recommendations for a relatively fast S&G that will accomodate a 6' 230
 pound paddler with size 11 feet?  Not looking to race, need something for
 3 -5 day excursions primarily on inland lakes and streams.



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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Need Substitute for Patuxent 19.5
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:59:33 -0500
At 12:12 AM 11/15/00 -0600, WhiteRabbit wrote:
> Finally got around to ordering a Patuxent 19.5 from CLC only to find out
> that they discontinued it!
>
> Any recommendations for a relatively fast S&G that will accomodate a 6' 230
> pound paddler with size 11 feet?  Not looking to race, need something for
> 3 -5 day excursions primarily on inland lakes and streams.

Yes, CLC discontinued the Patuxent 19.5 but they replaced it with the PAX 18
and PAX 20.  Check out their web site (www.clcboats.com), and especially 
their discussion forum for more information.

That said, I've heard that many people with larger feet and large bodies in
general have trouble fitting into the Pax 19.5.  I don't know if the 
PAX 18 or 20 are any better.  I built a CLC Northbay XL last winter and
even that doesn't have a lot of footroom.  However, any S&G boat can be 
modified by it's builder.  By changing the deck beams you could get more
footroom and the cockpit openings and outfitting can be customized as
well.


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From: WhiteRabbit <whiterabbit_at_empowering.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Need Substitute for Patuxent 19.5
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:42:59 -0600
I was aware of the Pax20 but it appears to be built more for speed than
touring compared to the older model.  The Pax 20 is only 19 inches wide
compared to 21 for the Patuxent, rocker is also substantially increased.


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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Need Substitute for Patuxent 19.5
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:45:23 -0500
At 09:42 AM 11/15/00 -0600, WhiteRabbit wrote:
>I was aware of the Pax20 but it appears to be built more for speed than
>touring compared to the older model.  The Pax 20 is only 19 inches wide
>compared to 21 for the Patuxent, rocker is also substantially increased.

Don't let that 19" beam scare you.  From what I've heard from people that
have paddled it, the boat is actually no less stable than the 19.5.  When
I was deciding between a standard Northbay and the XL version I opted for
the wider (22" vs. 20") beam on the XL because I wanted a boat with a 
fairly comfortable initial stability level. I'm quite comfortable in it
although after paddling a standard Northbay I would have been happy with
that as well.  

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