In a message dated 1/31/01 11:53:29 AM, jaf30_at_cornell.edu writes: << A couple of things that I don't recall being mentioned are what kind of roll you're trying. Is it a C to C? Sweep? >> sweep I don't really use a hip snap. I start to put the boat under me as I initiate the sweep and then a tiny humph at the end to finish the project. <<I assume that your setup and paddle position are probably the same with both boats, but a slight adjustment in your timing might be needed to roll the Gulfstream more reliably.>> Actually, I'm not failing to roll up. It is just so much harder. I seem to have to put so much more effort into it. If I don't I find I am sculling up the last bit instead of getting the boat under me, as I normally would. Hummm, this sounds like a failure of the tad of a snap at the end. I might be trying too hard and when I go to make that last move up with my lower leg I'm so hard against the thigh pad I have nothing left to push with. Then I find I'm pushing myself up with the paddle because I'm unable to let the pressure off my left for fear of rolling back down. This sculling business is fine in the pool but it won't work with the slightest chop in real water. I'll have to see what is going on next time I try the GS. Thanks, this is giving me a lot to think about. Joan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 01:24 PM 1/31/01 -0500, JSpinner_at_aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 1/31/01 11:53:29 AM, jaf30_at_cornell.edu writes: > ><< A couple of things that I don't recall being mentioned are what >kind of roll you're trying. Is it a C to C? Sweep? >> > >sweep >I don't really use a hip snap. I start to put the boat under me as I initiate >the sweep and then a tiny humph at the end to finish the project. > ><<I assume that your setup and paddle position are probably the same >with both boats, but a slight adjustment in your timing might be >needed to roll the Gulfstream more reliably.>> > Actually, I'm not failing to roll up. It is just so much harder. I seem >to have to put so much more effort into it. If I don't I find I am sculling >up the last bit instead of getting the boat under me, as I normally would. > Hummm, this sounds like a failure of the tad of a snap at the end. I >might be trying too hard and when I go to make that last move up with my >lower leg I'm so hard against the thigh pad I have nothing left to push with. >Then I find I'm pushing myself up with the paddle because I'm unable to let >the pressure off my left for fear of rolling back down. This sculling >business is fine in the pool but it won't work with the slightest chop in >real water. I'll have to see what is going on next time I try the GS. > Thanks, this is giving me a lot to think about. If you think that you're "trying harder" when rolling the gulfstream you might also be unconsciously raising your head more. Get someone to watch you roll each boat and see if they can see any differences. It sounds like slowing down the roll might help though. In another response, you mentioned that you run out of breath when practicing some of the underwater tricks when rolling the Breeze. >From what I've read, if you take 3 deep breaths (the optimal number) before going over, you should have a little more oxygen to work with. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
John I have been paddling a Gulfstream for three years and experienced similar rolling problems until I had a friend watch my head carefully. I roll up on the right side and found that "locking" my head to my right shoulder made all the difference. Letting the boat bring my head up solved my problem. This is not an uncommon problem I'm told. Prior to the Gulfstream I paddled a Valley Skerray (glass) and I find the Gulfstream superior in many ways, including rolls. Please note that my roll is far from bombproof. Cheers Bill Wetzel *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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