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From: Peter Treby <ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au>
subject: [Paddlewise] Doubles
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:28:13 +1000
I was wondering if anyone has any experience of double kayaks and techniques
for handling heavy conditions and surf.
I don't paddle a double, but I am trawling for information after a recent
trip in which a double capsized in surf. So...
Can you effect a quick self-rescue after a capsize in surf? How?
Are techniques for breaking out or landing through surf any different than
for a single?
How do you handle a fully loaded double with just two paddlers?
How do you handle a swamped double with just the crew?
Is the extra speed of a double worth the extra trouble in rough conditions?
What are the best arrangements for pumping out?  I tend to think linking
both cockpits by a tube, and having two independent electric pumps would be
good.
Any advice and comments welcome.
Regards,
Peter Treby
37º 42' S  145º 08' E

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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Doubles
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:37:31 -0400
You might want to read Eric Stiller's Keep Australia on The Left which
follows his and Tony Brown's 4,000 mile paddle from Sydney to Darwin.  It
involved constant surfing in a loaded Klepper double that basically was
self-supported except for what they could forage in towns and markets along
the way.  His book is both an adventure tale as well as a virtual primer on
expedition paddling a double in rough conditions.  One could easily tear out
the sections of discussion of gear, double surfing and rough water handling
and rescue, etc. and make a darn good book on double's technique.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Treby" <ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au>
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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 7:28 PM
Subject: [Paddlewise] Doubles


> I was wondering if anyone has any experience of double kayaks and
techniques
> for handling heavy conditions and surf.
> I don't paddle a double, but I am trawling for information after a recent
> trip in which a double capsized in surf. So...
> Can you effect a quick self-rescue after a capsize in surf? How?
> Are techniques for breaking out or landing through surf any different than
> for a single?
> How do you handle a fully loaded double with just two paddlers?
> How do you handle a swamped double with just the crew?
> Is the extra speed of a double worth the extra trouble in rough
conditions?
> What are the best arrangements for pumping out?  I tend to think linking
> both cockpits by a tube, and having two independent electric pumps would
be
> good.
> Any advice and comments welcome.
> Regards,
> Peter Treby
> 37º 42' S  145º 08' E
>
>
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From: Peter Treby <ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Doubles
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:58:05 +1000
"You might want to read Eric Stiller's Keep Australia on The Left which
follows his and Tony Brown's 4,000 mile paddle from Sydney to Darwin."
Thanks Ralph, I've read this and enjoyed it a lot. A great trip and a great
accomplishment. A little "Woody Allen" introspection by Eric seems the
style. I'd like to read an account by Tony Brown of the same trip.
The Klepper seemed to suffer a bit of a battering. I wondered as I read how
other boats would have fared by comparison.

Regards,
Peter Treby
37º 42' S  145º 08' E



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