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From: Doug Lloyd <dougl_at_islandnet.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Link to an updated article about B.C. kayakers death (add Wavelength Magazine)
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:25:56 -0700
Craig said:

"A prominent B.C. kayaking instructor and whitewater guide known to many
as
"Purple" Hayes died Thursday while kayaking on the Chilliwack River."
A link to the updated article: http://www.vancouversun.com/

----------------

Craig, I couldn't bring up your link to the death piece, as the news
clips change daily. One of the links I had (and I'm not sure how
different the info was from the Sun) can be found at:

<http://www2.mybc.com/news/fs.cfm?id=882016>

Like I said earlier, I'd never river paddle solo. Wavelength just
released their latest issue, and chose to focus on "Inner Waters", which
includes material covering whitewater kayaking. The deceased paddler,
Rick Hayes, had an article in the current issue about kayaking the
Chilliwack River. The article stated: "Never paddle alone". He closes
the article by saying, "Who knows, maybe I'll see you out on the river
some day -- make that the Chilliwack River!"  A tragic death.

On a happier note, PW'er Shawn Baker has a nice "fresh" piece on
paddling on Flathead Lake in the current issue. And Ralph Hoehn has a
neat perspective on "Folding Kayaks on Inner Waters." There is also a
well written piece about paddling Skookumchuck Narrows (not for the
faint at heart).

BTW anyone out there in kayak land, in a couple of weeks are some huge
tides here in the PNW. Anyone wanting to run any salt chuck rapids?


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From: Pete <critters_at_wt.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] article about B.C. kayakersdeath - Diabetic
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 09:09:45 -0500
> "A prominent B.C. kayaking instructor and whitewater guide known to many
> as "Purple" Hayes died Thursday while kayaking on the Chilliwack River."

Link article mentioned that Rick was diabetic.

Makes you worried when you are a kayaker and diabetic too!

Any other type II diabetic kayakers out there.  What precautions do you take on
the water?
I tend to go severe hypo glycemic after 2-3 hours of paddling. Real problem.

My sympathies to his wife and family



Pete


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From: Andree Hurley <ahurley_at_viewit.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] article about B.C. kayakersdeath - Diabetic
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:01:42 -0400 (EDT)
I've had a lot of clients who are diabetic. On day rafting trips they
commonly wouldn't say anything, just kind of slide into a less active
state. Usually a relative would tell us and we would get to the cars
more quickly.

Once, while on the Middle Fork of the Salmon, one kayaker insisted on
stopping to eat quite often. This was ok until one time we were floating
through a forest fire and had been told not to stop due to falling
rocks. That time I wondered if  the person on the raft couldn't give him
a sandwich while floating as it was flat.

On longer sea kayaking trips (and ww) people carry  their kits with them
in the boat, plus extra food. I suppose it would be good for someone else to
have glucosamine? Then others can help by squirting it in the mouth if
need be?

Andree

Andree Hurley
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On Thu, 7
Jun 2001, Pete wrote:

> > "A prominent B.C. kayaking instructor and whitewater guide known to many
> > as "Purple" Hayes died Thursday while kayaking on the Chilliwack River."
>
> Link article mentioned that Rick was diabetic.
>
> Makes you worried when you are a kayaker and diabetic too!
>
> Any other type II diabetic kayakers out there.  What precautions do you take on
> the water?
> I tend to go severe hypo glycemic after 2-3 hours of paddling. Real problem.
>
> My sympathies to his wife and family
>
>
>
> Pete
>
>
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From: Joe Pylka <pylka_at_castle.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] art - Diabetic
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:38:00 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andree Hurley" <
>
> On longer sea kayaking trips (and ww) people carry  their kits with them
> in the boat, plus extra food. I suppose it would be good for someone else
to
> have glucosamine? Then others can help by squirting it in the mouth if
> need be?
>
        That's one of the advantages of the cake icing gel stuff.  If the
person is not responding, squirting it under the tongue will get some of it
absorbed into the bloodstream without risk of going down the wrong tubes.
Later, a few saltines can also do a good job.  They can get soggy, of
course...
        These are standard in the first aid kits carried by AMC trips in the
NY-NJ area.  Sometimes glucosamine as well but according to the MDs in the
club ingesting a little sugar in these amounts is not going to create a
problem -- and it's cheaper.



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From: Joe Pylka <pylka_at_castle.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] - Diabetic
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:20:27 -0400
> Link article mentioned that Rick was diabetic.
> Makes you worried when you are a kayaker and diabetic too!
>
> Any other type II diabetic kayakers out there.  What precautions do you
take on
> the water?
> I tend to go severe hypo glycemic after 2-3 hours of paddling. Real
problem.
> Pete
>
        I carry  little plastic tubes of cake decorating gel in a pocket.
There's about 19 gm in each which can be squeezed under the tongue.  They
stay sealed and waterproof until the cap is twisted off.  I've also used the
GU gel type packets sold in some outdoor stores, or the PowerBar version.
        I can generally tell when things are beginning to go, and I take
action immediately -- it takes 5 - 10 minutes for me to get back up to
snuff.
        It's not an uncommon problem nowadays..  I know of a few others in
this area with Type II and some Type I as well...  It's a good idea to be
aware of them so you can deal with it should a problem occur.

        Joe P.


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From: Wes Boyd <boydwe_at_dmci.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] - Diabetic
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 16:16:35
>> Link article mentioned that Rick was diabetic.
>> Makes you worried when you are a kayaker and diabetic too!
>>
>> Any other type II diabetic kayakers out there.  What precautions do you
>take on
>> the water?
>> I tend to go severe hypo glycemic after 2-3 hours of paddling. Real
>problem.

I'm type II as well, though with pretty good control. I've gotten a little
hypoglycemic on the water a couple of times, never anything too serious as
I usually get plenty of warning. I always carry glucose tablets and they've
proved adequate.

The people I paddle regularly with know that I'm type II and could have a
problem; and when I've gone on longer trips with a group I've given then a
quick briefing.

-- Wes
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From: Craig MacKinnon <elroca_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Link to an updated article about B.C. kayakers death
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:35:09 -0400
I can't get back to the article I posted either. The link I posted was an
updated article that featured more detail, particularly about who Rick Hayes
was and his influence on river kayakers in the BC area and beyond. Key points:




1) The death was ruled a drowning.


2) Friends thought it suspicious that he would kayak alone.


3) He was diabetic.


4) The death was still under investigation.





My memory is a bit fuzzy; someone correct me if I'm wrong.





Tragic death indeed,





Craig





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  Subject: [Paddlewise] Link to an updated article about B.C. kayakers death
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  Craig, I couldn't bring up your link to the death piece, as the news clips
change daily. 





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