Re: [Paddlewise] Fw: Paddlewise.net outage

From: Bob Myers <bob_at_muddypuppies.com>
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:56:06 -0700
On May 22, 10:41am, "Jolie Smilowicz" wrote:
} Subject: [Paddlewise] Fw: Paddlewise.net outage
} John wote:
} 
} > Your being offline for a couple of days just makes it hit home
} > once again how great Paddlewise is as a service.  Now that it is
} > running from your home and is not on a commercial server, it's got
} > me wondering who is footing the bill for this. Is this costing you
} > and/or Kirk money as well as all the time that it must take?
} 
} I second John's question, and now realize how under-appreciated the list in
} general, and you and Kirk in particular, truly are.  Thank you for making
} this list happen!

Hi John, Jolie,

Well, yes, it does cost us money.  Computer equipment, domain name
registration, and most of all a full-time Internet connection with a
dedicated IP address.  When we started out we had it hosted at my company,
an ISP where I was a minor partner, but we eventually sold the company
and had to move the kayak mailing lists and websites somewhere else 
last summer - so we just set it up at home.  

Most of the equipment and the Internet link is multiple use, though;
not much is really dedicated just to Paddlewise, though we'd probably
get by with less if we didn't have Paddlewise to think about.

It all started with the California Kayak Friends in 1995, with both 
a mailing list and a website, then my wife Jackie set up GASP! (Gulf 
Area Sea Paddlers) before she moved to California.  Then the Wave~Length
list and Kirk's Baidarka list needed new homes, and I volunteered to host
them.  I personally ran Wave~Length for a while in 1997 but dropped out 
over a major disagreement over how to handle Sponsonman. Shortly 
thereafter Jackie set up Paddlewise in January 1998 since she really felt 
we needed a semi-moderated kayak group to keep the flames down - especially 
the sponsonman-induced flames.  Last summer we moved everything onto our 
home server, and of course recently Kirk took over Paddlewise from Jackie.

It's been a long paddle, but fun.  Thanks for the appreciation; this has 
been my contribution to the kayaking community and I'm glad you've enjoyed
it.  I've kept a fairly low profile since the days I ran Wave~Length; tech
support should be as invisible as possible generally, IMHO. 

I think this last weekend is the longest outage we've had in 7 years. 
Sorry about that, again.

Bob Myers
Paddlewise.net system admin
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