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subject: [Paddlewise] Cell phones and text mesages
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:20:31 EST
SMS=Short Message Service

Brian Blankinship




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From: Jeff <jkayak_at_sopoint.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cell phones and text mesages
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 21:07:23 -0500
>SMS stands for Short Message Service and currently is only supported
>on GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications) cell phone networks.

This is not true. While the usage of SMS may be more prevalent in Europe and
especially Asia, I have had SMS on my TDMA ( AT&T) mobile phone since 1999.
I believe it is also available on CDMA networks. Of course (being a New
Yorker), I don't have the patience to use it. In the time it takes me to
address and type a cryptic message, I could make three phone calls and have
dinner...!

Jeff
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From: Ari Saarto <ari0236_at_Saunalahti.fi>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cell phones and text mesages
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:42:54 +0200
Hi everyone,

thanks for your quick replies!

SMS is exeptionally common around here. Because the cell phone networks
cover 98-99 % of the whole country I am usually receiving weather reports,
updated information from other kayakers about routes and plans when I am
paddling along the southern coast!

Very useful, and saves batteries. Typing longer messages takes some time,
but it also depends on how logically the phone and itīs use are planned. I
am quite satisfied for my recent model, because the older one was a real
pain in the a$$.

Ari 

(-25 degrees C this morning. Recent forecasts include a presumption that the
whole Baltic Sea can freeze during next two weeks. That has not happened
since 1946!)


> This is not true. While the usage of SMS may be more prevalent in Europe and
> especially Asia, I have had SMS on my TDMA ( AT&T) mobile phone since 1999.
> I believe it is also available on CDMA networks. Of course (being a New
> Yorker), I don't have the patience to use it. In the time it takes me to
> address and type a cryptic message, I could make three phone calls and have
> dinner...!
> 
> Jeff

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From: John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_netaccess.co.nz>
subject: [Paddlewise] Amazing world
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 00:38:13 +1300
 Ari Saarto wrote:


> (-25 degrees C this morning. Recent forecasts include a presumption that the
> whole Baltic Sea can freeze during next two weeks. That has not happened
> since 1946!)
> 

Got up from reading this, looked out the window and saw a Hectors Dolphin
cruising gently by. What an amazingly diverse world we live in.

Cheers

John Kirk-Anderson
Banks Peninsula
NEW ZEALAND

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From: Craig Bowers <craig_at_bowers.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cell phones and text mesages
Date: 10 Jan 2003 08:54:35 -0800
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 18:07, Jeff wrote:
> >SMS stands for Short Message Service and currently is only supported
> >on GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications) cell phone networks.
> 
> This is not true. While the usage of SMS may be more prevalent in Europe and
> especially Asia, I have had SMS on my TDMA ( AT&T) mobile phone since 1999.
> I believe it is also available on CDMA networks. Of course (being a New
> Yorker), I don't have the patience to use it. In the time it takes me to
> address and type a cryptic message, I could make three phone calls and have
> dinner...!

Indeed.  It's also available on the AT&T Canada TDMA (IS-136) network
here.

It's partially true that it's always been available on CDMA networks. 
I've been using it for years there too.  The issue though has been that
while two way SMS has always been in the CDMA spec, virtually no carrier
offered it.  It's always been receive only, and often only to a special
email address assigned to the phone.  So it's been useful for automated
information updates, and one-way communication, but that's about it. 

Then there was for a time, a stop-gap measure on CDMA handsets, whereby
you could reply to a text message but it had to be done via the WAP
browser on your phone.  Not a slick way to try and reply to a text
message.

More recently this has changed.  My current CDMA handset is now MO-SMS
enabled (Mobile Originate).  The usage of the feature is now more like a
GSM user would be familiar with.  All I need to know is the phone number
of the phone I want to send a message to.  And I can now *reply* to any
text message.

Further, in Canada all the providers have linked their SMS gateways
together.  So I can send SMS to any phone in Canada be it on a CDMA,
GSM, or TDMA (IS-136) network.

GSM phones still have greater world-wide off-network SMS abilities
though.

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