It is slick. You can tell the designers had some whitewater experience, and drew liberally from the available outfitting from Wilderness Systems' sister company, WaveSport. I just got to paddle a prototype of the new Necky Chatham 16 on Friday--it has super cool outfitting, too. Things are looking great in the world of commercial sea kayaks. Shawn "Michael Daly" <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com> wrote: >I also saw the Tempest, from Wilderness Systems. That has the best outfitting I've seen on any plastic kayak and one of the best of any kayak. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 12:13:05 -0700 (PDT), "Shawn Baker" <shawnkayak_at_yahoo.com> said: > It is slick. You can tell the designers had some whitewater > experience, and drew liberally from the available outfitting from > Wilderness Systems' sister company, WaveSport. > > Things are looking great in the world of commercial sea kayaks. Unfortunately the outfitting is not available except with new boats. Wilderness Systems has a few animated pictures and a writeup online http://www.wildernesssystems.com/kayaks/phase3.php -- Kirk Olsen kork4_at_cluemail.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>Unfortunately the outfitting is not available except with new boats. > >Wilderness Systems has a few animated pictures and a writeup online >http://www.wildernesssystems.com/kayaks/phase3.php >-- > Kirk Olsen Yes Kirk, it is unfortunate they don't offer them after market. We were lucky enough to buy new Cape Horn's last month, and they have the Phase 3 seats. They are nice. Nice to be able to materially change the contact points with the boat. Two hours without getting out has been our max so far, but I didn't feel cramped or sore at that point. One thing to consider - the seat back makes re-entry from the water a little tougher as it flops down where you want to sit. Perhaps a bungie would allow it to pop back up as you rotate your butt into the seat. Layback rolls are a bit harder too. But perhaps it's a good trade-off for the comfort it brings. Gotta work on some other rolls I guess. If only I could lower the seat back without popping the spray skirt. Maybe when I build my stripper I'll rig it so the same seat can be used. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> We were > lucky enough to buy new Cape Horn's last month, and they have the Phase 3 > seats. They are nice. > > One thing to consider - the seat back makes re-entry from the water a little > tougher as it flops down where you want to sit. Perhaps a bungie would allow > it to pop back up as you rotate your butt into the seat. Layback rolls are a > bit harder too. But perhaps it's a good trade-off for the comfort it brings. > Gotta work on some other rolls I guess. If only I could lower the seat back > without popping the spray skirt. One thing to point out, since the discussion started with the Tempest, is that the seat systems in the Tempest and Cape Horn aren't quite the same. The share the adjustable seat bottom, but that's it. The Tempest includes easily adjusted Thigh hooks, great hip pads, and doesn't have the same seat back as the Cape Horn. Instead of the adjustable height backrest, there is a whitewater style backbend. This eliminates some of the concerns about re-entries and rolls. the Cape Horn outfitting is nice, and I enjoy the boat allot, but I think the Tempest outfitting is a clear step forward. It'll be interesting to see if, like the revolutions in outfitting in whitewater boats, the other manufactures follow suit. Minicell could be hard to find in ten years! Geoff *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:21:08 -0700, "Geoff Jennings" <geoff_at_texaskilonewton.com> said: > Minicell could be hard to find in ten years! Alas, my local shop only had thick gel monster seats on my last visit. I wanted a simple piece of foam at most 1/4 inch thick. Thats what I want as my seat ;-) Backpacking has the "Go Lite" philosphy. I'm with them... Kirk -- Kirk Olsen kork4_at_cluemail.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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