Does anyone have the Roleez kayak cart with the black wheels..?? (RZ1-KCC) IS it durable....?? Worth the 129.00..?? Thanks Barry *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Does anyone have the Roleez kayak cart with the black wheels..?? > (RZ1-KCC) IS it durable....?? Worth the 129.00..?? RZ1-KCC, Primex kayak cart, Seatttle Sport Deluxe - this is all the same. Yes, a pair of lawn-mower wheels :-) and a couple of tubes can hardly justify $129 price-tag, but we have no choice. I have never seen them cheaper than USD 105 or 110. Yes, they are durable - but not puncture-proof. I suspect that Seattle Sport Deluxe http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?productId=12065304&storeId=80 00&catalogId=40000008000&langId=-1&color=&img=/media/685212Lrg.jpg&view=larg e&vcat=REI_SEARCH might be slightly better. Why better - because those black pieces at the inner hubs loolk like good sleeve bearings, similar to those in golf carts - better than in RZ!-KCC. Will check it next time I stop at REI (60 miles away from me). There are also compact-folded, knock-down versions by www.paddleboy.com , with either solid or inflatable wheels - but you'll have to deal with 5 or 6 separate pieces each time. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Moderator's Note: Content unaltered. Excessive quoting (including headers/footers/sig lines/extraneous text from previous posts, etc.) have been removed. Please edit quoted material in addition to removing header/trailers when replying to posts.] Barry, I've only had one for a few months & only used it twice. SO far I am very pleased with the build quality. I have a very heavy 16 foot Prijon Seayak the cart appears to be just the ticket for dragging my boat to & from the water and on relatively civilized portages. John -----Original Message----- From: deltasixeleven_at_verizon.net Subject: [Paddlewise] Carts Does anyone have the Roleez kayak cart with the black wheels..?? (RZ1-KCC) IS it durable....?? Worth the 129.00..?? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
deltasixeleven_at_verizon.net said: > > Does anyone have the Roleez kayak cart with the black wheels..?? > (RZ1-KCC) IS it durable....?? Worth the 129.00..?? > > Thanks > > Barry Barry, I've been real happy with my XSL cart from Xstreamline. http://www.xstreamline.com/kayak/a_cart.html It has held up to several years of salt water exposure now. Steve Holtzman *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I've been real happy with my XSL cart from Xstreamline. > http://www.xstreamline.com/kayak/a_cart.html It has held up to several years > of salt water exposure now. Plastic, aluminum or SS steel are all good enough for salt water. Wheels in XSL look suspiciously similar to those 10"x3" of Primex/Roleez, i.e. no bearings. OTH, their Heavy-Lifter has wheels like in Paddleboy Heavylifter - and they could have bearings. I'm using DIY cart similar to Xstreamline ATV (the easiest to make, just 2 T-shaped pieces and steel axle), with 8"x1.75" non-pneumatic, no-bearings $6 wheels from HomeDepot, and it's not salt water that bothers me, but much friction of wheel agains the axle when load is over 150 lbs. For parking-dock portages - no problemo, of course. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I know I've posted this before so for those that it is a duplicate, sorry. I use the following wheels on carts with success, has bearings, 12" diameter: http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=13794&R=13794 Also comes in an 8" diameter (also slightly narrower it appears): http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=200199624&R=200199624 K *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I'm new to kayaking (my wife and I bought two last fall) so I don't know much about carts. I do know that I am interested in building a couple for myself though. I'm a manufacturer that fabricates with PVC, polyethylene, nylon, etc. If there is enough interest, I'd consider building a batch of them. Grant. Keith Wrage wrote: > I know I've posted this before so for those that it is a duplicate, > sorry. > > I use the following wheels on carts with success, has bearings, 12" > diameter: > http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=13794&R=13794 > > > Also comes in an 8" diameter (also slightly narrower it appears): > http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=200199624&R=200199624 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>I'm a manufacturer that fabricates with PVC, polyethylene, nylon, etc. Grant, You should have NEVER admitted that to the PW list :o) This is a bunch that most likely has dozens of items that need fabricating!!! Myself, I've got a sail rig I'd like to discuss.... :o) K *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I use an "Air Yedo" regularly and like it a lot. http://www.paddleboy.com/pages/product_pages/air_yedo.html Can disassemble it and have it in my rear hatch in less than 60 seconds. Assembly in the same time. Can carry 2 kayaks when I have to. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
deltasixeleven_at_verizon.net wrote: > Does anyone have the Roleez kayak cart with the black wheels..??>(RZ1-KCC) IS it durable....?? Worth the 129.00..?? If youb^Yre talking about this unit, http://www.primexmarketing.com/view_kayak_canoe_cart.htm,Ib^Yve had two now. I did a warranty exchange with the retailer when the first one developed alarming wear after a couple of year's use b^S the plastic hubs were lathing off the aluminium on the underside of the axles (the wheels have no bearings). The replacement one has developed similar wear after a couple of years, despite applications of axle grease. To put this into context: the retailer assures me theyb^Yve had very few returns, and theyb^Yve carried the cart for years now. Ib^Yve had about five years use from the two carts, and the second one is still far from worn out, so Ib^Yve gotten my moneyb^Ys worth. And in fairness, I really use my cart, way more than the average car-to-beach-with-an-empty-boat-paddler. I do a lot of canoe-type trips with my kayak where Ib^Ym portaging for several kilometres at a time, with the kayak often at least partially loaded. Ib^Yve never actua! lly had th! e Primex break on me, but since I do a lot of solo trips, Ib^Yd be really hooped if it did. So Ib^Yve retired the Primex to boathouse-to-beach duty, and upgraded this year to the Paddleboy Heavy Lifter http://www.paddleboy.com/pages/product_pages/heavy_lifter.html, based on positive reviews I found at http://www.paddling.net/Reviews/showReviews.html?prod=610(As the reviewers note, no tie-down straps are included, but Ib^Yve got a bunch anyway from the Primex cart and the ones I use for my car roof rack.) As a bonus, the Heavy Lifterb^Ys capacity is rated high enough that I should be able to use it for my double kayak too. I havenb^Yt actually used my Heavy Lifter yet, but it looks to be really well made (it is of course heavier, being steel rather than aluminium, but space is more of an issue than weight in a kayak. And since it breaks down in to more pieces than the Primex, it should be easier to stow below decks for greater stability, windstreaming, and resistance to loss! over! board.) Ib^Ym hopeful the bearings will make it wheel more easi! ly and l ast longer.Hope this helps you. Philip *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>the plastic hubs were lathing off the aluminium on the underside of the axles (the wheels have no bearings). This is really upsetting in these Primex/Roleez carts - rated for 200 lbs or more, and no bearings. For rolling an empty kayak over short distances it doesn't matter, though. My wheels from old golf cart are better in this respect - there is a bearing sleeve, i.e. wheel rotates around immobile sleeve that sits on the axle, and it is much easier to roll heavy loads over all kinds of surfaces on them (but they are not strong enough for that). > Primex break on me, but since I do a lot of solo trips, Ib^Yd be really hooped if it did. So Ib^Yve retired the Primex to boathouse-to-beach duty, and upgraded this year to the Paddleboy Heavy Lifter http://www.paddleboy.com/pages/product_pages/heavy_lifter.html, > They are talking about "bronze bushings" on these wheels - is it really so? (and what is the axle opening in the bushing - 1/2", 5/8" ?) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 30 Jan 2005 at 15:51, kayakwriter_at_netscape.net wrote: > the first one developed alarming > wear after a couple of year's use b^S the plastic hubs were lathing > off the aluminium on the underside of the axles (the wheels have no > bearings). I'd bet the problem is that sand and grit are getting in there. Being sealed is probably more important than having a bearing. Once fine grit gets into the plastic, it will act like sandpaper. Your long portages don't help under the circumstances. I have a cart but if I had to replace it, I'd make my own. There's nothing too complicated about it and I bet you can find instructions on the web (there are some in a back issue(s) of Sea Kayaker). Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"alex" <al.m_at_3web.net> wrote: ach duty, >and upgraded this year to the Paddleboy Heavy Lifter >http://www.paddleboy.com/pages/product_pages/heavy_lifter.html, > > >They are talking about "bronze bushings" on these wheels - is it really so? >(and what is the axle opening in the bushing - 1/2", 5/8" ?) My Paddleboy wheels are at the boathouse where I keep my kayak. I'll check for you the next time I'm there. Philip *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"Steve Holtzman" <sh_at_actglobal.net> wrote: >I've been real happy with my XSL cart from Xstreamline. >http://www.xstreamline.com/kayak/a_cart.html It has held up to several years of salt water exposure now. Steve, that's good to hear, because the photos shown of the XSL look absolutly indistingushable from my Paddleboy cart - I'm guessing that Paddleboy may make them to be sold under the Xstreamline name. BTY, the axles of the Paddleboy (and, it appears, the XSL) are essentially thick screws. I was thinking of finding a spare stainless screw of appropriate size at my local marine store and adding it to my field repair kit. (I pride myself on being able to McGyver work-arounds in field repairs, but it's hard to imagine I could whittle an effective screw outta driftwood:-) Overkill to carry such a spare, do you think? Have you used your cart with a loaded boat and/or on rougher portages? Philip *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I probably should have mentioned I got my Rolleez cart on eBay for under $100 (including shipping). For my purposes I think it is going to work out well. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I use the following wheels on carts with success, has bearings, 12" diameter: > http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId =6970&productId=13794&R=13794 I only wish they had it in 10"x2", or 10"x3" size, - 12.5" diameter is a little bit large to store under deck. Doable, but with some pain , when trip is long and bulkhead is full. I've They also have non-bearings wheels for Primex/Roleez for $10. > Also comes in an 8" diameter (also slightly narrower it appears): > http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId =6970&productId=200199624&R=200199624 It's much more narrow, - 1.25" vs 2.25". It will work poorly on sand for this reason (my 8"x1.75" works so-so), and there is another challenge - 5/16" axle won't fit my 1/2" axle - have to make another cart :-)... *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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