Paddlewisers, Has anyone caught the Derek Hutchinson interview on video at: http://dashpointpirate.typepad.com Matt Broze from Mariner even makes a cameo. Duane Southern Calilfornia *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I had never seen Matt before. Somehow his image and the one in my > mind didnt match up. I like the real life one better. Take that as > a compliment Matt. Jim et al > Matt Broze from Mariner even makes a cameo. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 10/9/2007 11:00:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, strosaker_at_yahoo.com writes: Paddlewisers, Has anyone caught the Derek Hutchinson interview on video at: http://dashpointpirate.typepad.com Matt Broze from Mariner even makes a cameo. Duane Southern Calilfornia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is such an aquired taste, I find it difficult to think about him without copious flags coming up. He has done great things for the sport and that will be a bill we will forever pay upon. Like one of those adjustable rate mortgages. Still, a good asset for the sport. One of the most comical parts of the interview was when he says he invented hatches and bulkheads and Matt says maybe in England he did, but in the USA Link Hales did in the 50's. Derek feigns surprise, digs in about what boats, more surprise tossed in for good measure. All of that was done by letter to the editor in Sea Kayaker magazine a few years ago. He knows perfectly well, but chooses to believe otherwise. And then there was that bit about the asymetrical paddles and feathering. Cheers, Rob G ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Derek is owed a large degree of credit for popularizing sea kayaking and whether or not he invented anything, he put a lot of things together into a commercially viable package and marketed it well. Sometimes that is more important than actually coming up with good ideas. For better or worse a large part of sea kayaking is what it is due to his efforts. While other people had significant contributions his are noteworthy. While I enjoyed seeing Matt poke at his balloon, it did cut short the History Of The World According to Derek and almost wish Matt had let him spout off for a while longer. Matt and Derek are both well aware of the arguments on both sides, it would have been good to get the fully adulterated version from Derek. On Oct 10, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Rcgibbert_at_aol.com wrote: > > He is such an aquired taste, I find it difficult to think about him > without > copious flags coming up. He has done great things for the sport and > that will > be a bill we will forever pay upon. Like one of those adjustable rate > mortgages. Still, a good asset for the sport. > Nick Schade Guillemot Kayaks 824 Thompson St Glastonbury, CT 06033 USA Ph/Fx: (860) 659-8847 http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 10/10/07, Rcgibbert_at_aol.com <Rcgibbert_at_aol.com> wrote: > > He is such an aquired taste, I find it difficult to think about him > without > copious flags coming up. He has done great things for the sport and that > will > be a bill we will forever pay upon. Like one of those adjustable rate > mortgages. Still, a good asset for the sport. Derek is a great showman. I watched his paddle strokes demonstration and even loaned him my wing paddle so he could use that. He did tricks and tipped his hat in a bracing stroke and the crowd loved it. So did I. His interview doesn't come off quite so well. Remarks about not dressing for immersion in the old days are true enough but somewhat scary in a modern context where most sea kayakers have never been white-water paddlers. We didn't dress for immersion mostly because we had nothing suitable available. I used to paddle in the rain wearing K-mart plastic poncho; I shudder to think of what swimming out would have been like in that. But he makes it sound like wearing a modern drysuit while paddling is ludicrous. Us ol' guys can be pretty set in our ways about things. Sometimes it takes someone to hammer an idea into our heads before we catch on. Sometimes we never do. I thought Matt was terrific. I wanna be just like him when I grow up. Craig Jungers Royal City, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Craig said: > But he makes > it > sound like wearing a modern drysuit while paddling is ludicrous. Us ol' > guys > can be pretty set in our ways about things. Sometimes it takes someone > to > hammer an idea into our heads before we catch on. > > Sometimes we never do. The last time I took a class from Derek (assisted by Wayne Horodowich from USK), he was wearing a dry suit while most of us were in wet suits (it was Southern California). So it's "do as I do, not as I say." _____________ NOD32 EMON 2585 (20071010) information _____________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Regarding the first use of bulkheads and hatches in kayaks, several years ago at the Great Lakes Sea Kayak Symposium, Sam Cook related how he and the other expedition members designed them for use on the Nordkapp expedition of 1975. One of the most interesting things about his talk was a slide show of the several stages of the design process, in particular of the different hatch designs they tried. They persuaded Frank Goodman to build a longer, faster kayak for the expedition that incorporated not only bulkheads and hatches but a built-in bilge pump and a prototypical day hatch that was a removable watertight cylinder placed into a well in the afterdeck. This was the origin of the famous Nordkapp kayak. Goodman was reluctant to put bulkheads into a kayak out of concern about the stresses they might cause, but did so for the expedition. Before the Nordkapp kayak, the expedition members paddled Anas Acutas that lacked bulkheads. It was a difficult rescue during a training trip that persuaded the expedition members that they needed bulkheads and pumps (as opposed to balers), and of course bulkheads make hatches necessary. The pumps were intended only for operation by kayakers assisting the flooded boat, hence the awkward placement behind the paddler. Sam modestly said there was some controversy in Britain about who invented bulkheads and hatches, but this was his personal experience. I suspect that they were probably all independent inventions. For another account of the Nordkapp kayak, see http://www.nmmc.co.uk/index.php?page=Collections&type=Boat&id=190&choiceid=149 Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Our very own PW History section -- amongst other comments -- contains an elaboration by Matt Broze, dating back to 2001, on the "Tyee I" mentioned in the video: http://www.paddlewise.net/topics/foldingkayak/history.html Ralph Hoehn Vermont / New Hampshire -----Original Message----- From: Rcgibbert_at_aol.com Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Derek Hutchinson Interview Video He is such an aquired taste, I find it difficult to think about him without copious flags coming up. He has done great things for the sport and that will be a bill we will forever pay upon. Like one of those adjustable rate mortgages. Still, a good asset for the sport. One of the most comical parts of the interview was when he says he invented hatches and bulkheads and Matt says maybe in England he did, but in the USA Link Hales did in the 50's. Derek feigns surprise, digs in about what boats, more surprise tossed in for good measure. All of that was done by letter to the editor in Sea Kayaker magazine a few years ago. He knows perfectly well, but chooses to believe otherwise. And then there was that bit about the asymetrical paddles and feathering. Cheers, Rob G ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Paddlewisers, > > Has anyone caught the Derek Hutchinson interview on video at: > > http://dashpointpirate.typepad.com > > Matt Broze from Mariner even makes a cameo. > > Duane > Southern Calilfornia Interesting! Although, and I speak as an older gentleman myself, I see that Derek has a bit of the tendency that one sees in older men to self-aggrandize to a degree. <grin> Still, no denying that he knows a fair bit about kayaking. A hell of a lot more than me! -- Darryl *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 10/10/2007 10:33:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, nick_at_guillemot-kayaks.com writes: Derek is owed a large degree of credit for popularizing sea kayaking and whether or not he invented anything, he put a lot of things together into a commercially viable package and marketed it well. Sometimes that is more important than actually coming up with good ideas. For better or worse a large part of sea kayaking is what it is due to his efforts. While other people had significant contributions his are noteworthy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I completely agree. He's a lot of things, but indispensible to the sport is one thing I can think of. While I enjoyed seeing Matt poke at his balloon, it did cut short the History Of The World According to Derek and almost wish Matt had let him spout off for a while longer. Matt and Derek are both well aware of the arguments on both sides, it would have been good to get the fully adulterated version from Derek. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He never did breath the name Frank Goodman or his Nordkapp in the British Maritime Museum. Or the Guillemot in residence at MOMA for that matter. Wind him up and let him go. I wonder if Andrew's memory card has any more footage. Cheers, Rob G ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
How does Frank Goodman fit in to the history of sea kayaks? I seem to remember hearing about Goodman first and more often then Derek way back when I was first looking at the sport of sea kayaking. -mike > While I enjoyed seeing Matt poke at his balloon, it did cut short the > History Of The World According to Derek and almost wish Matt had let > him spout off for a while longer. Matt and Derek are both well aware > of the arguments on both sides, it would have been good to get the > fully adulterated version from Derek. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > He never did breath the name Frank Goodman or his Nordkapp in the British > Maritime Museum. Or the Guillemot in residence at MOMA for that matter. > Wind > him up and let him go. I wonder if Andrew's memory card has any more > footage. > > Cheers, > > Rob G *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Gee, I've read all the Hobbit books and never realized Gandalf was a sea kayaker! -----Original Message----- http://dashpointpirate.typepad.com Matt Broze from Mariner even makes a cameo. Duane *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Please remove all old content that is not pertinent to your reply including old headers and footers. It's list policy.... this post was modified to meet policy] He mentioned his Toksook paddle during the talk. It says on the website the paddle is, "....based on the paddles used by the Nootak and Kotzibue paddlers (Western Alaska)." http://www.useakayak.org/equipment/toksook.html I took a look at Zimmerly's site and Harvey Golden's and I don't see anything about the Nootak or Kotzibue. Google isn't helping. Anyone know where I could get some information (pictures) of their paddles? I'd like to make one based on the originals. Thanks, Kent On 10/9/07, Duane Strosaker <strosaker_at_yahoo.com> wrote: > Paddlewisers, > > Has anyone caught the Derek Hutchinson interview on video at: > > http://dashpointpirate.typepad.com -- "Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for - in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car, and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen DeGeneres *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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