Found this at USK's site: Travel John. A peeing bag for ladies gentlemen and children Long URL: http://www.useakayak.org/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=US&Product_Code=KN-100&Category_Code=KN Are these items of any use? Tord *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Tord Eriksson said: A peeing bag for ladies gentlemen and children Are these items of any use? For many, many years I have used an old Nalgene bottle as a pee bottle. Great to have in the boat on long trip and really good in the winter, where the bottle, after use, helps warm the cockpit, especially the feet. And indispensible in a tent in the winter or when mosquitos are bad. I have upgraded to a Nalgene Canteen, a bag much like the ones you linked to, because it takes up less space when empty and holds more for long winter nights in the tent. Jim Tibensky *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 10/12/07, Tord Eriksson <tord_at_tord.nu> wrote: > > Found this at USK's site: Travel John. > > A peeing bag for ladies gentlemen and children <snip> Are these items of any use? Sailplane (glider) pilots never know just how long their flights will be (especially in the western deserts of North America) and there have been numerous creative methods to relieve one's self without landing. The danger (well, from peeing, at least) is that the bag will burst leaving one's cockpit um... not so comfy. The motion in a glider can be far more violent than the motion of a kayak except for the occasional Doug Lloydian escapade. Modern gliders are designed to withstand the same forces as jet fighters. I used ziplock bags filled with strips of the absorbent used in diapers. You can just cut the entire diaper into strips and line the baggy. The bags I used had a "zipper" to make it more secure. I think I still have a few of them stashed in my glider bag, actually. Some pilots buy "external catheters" which look something like a condom with a hole in the end to accept a tube. They would then route this tube so that any liquid will run out the landing gear door; assuming one remembers to lower the landing gear first. This can be hard on landing gear as urine is corrosive. There is a method of securing a bag to one's ankles and then routing the tube from the external catheter to that; the downside being that in a glider, as in many kayaks, the ankles are not always "below" the waist and the knees are almost always bent. And in many sailplanes the pilot's position is reclining (to reduce drag). Unlike a kayak, the solution to these problems in a glider is simple: dive! You can always tell when someone flying a sailplane is taking a pee. Go to www.wingsandwheels.com for more ideas on these sorts of devices. Craig Jungers Royal City, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> On 10/12/07, Tord Eriksson <tord_at_tord.nu> wrote: > > > > Found this at USK's site: Travel John. > > > > A peeing bag for ladies gentlemen and children > > > <snip> > > Are these items of any use? > > > Sailplane (glider) pilots never know just how long their flights will be > (especially in the western deserts of North America) and there have been > numerous creative methods to relieve one's self without landing. > > The danger (well, from peeing, at least) is that the bag will burst leaving > one's cockpit um... not so comfy. The motion in a glider can be far more > violent than the motion of a kayak except for the occasional Doug Lloydian > escapade. Modern gliders are designed to withstand the same forces as jet > fighters. > > I used ziplock bags filled with strips of the absorbent used in diapers. You > can just cut the entire diaper into strips and line the baggy. The bags I > used had a "zipper" to make it more secure. I think I still have a few of > them stashed in my glider bag, actually. > > Some pilots buy "external catheters" which look something like a condom with > a hole in the end to accept a tube. They would then route this tube so that > any liquid will run out the landing gear door; assuming one remembers to > lower the landing gear first. This can be hard on landing gear as urine is > corrosive. > > There is a method of securing a bag to one's ankles and then routing the > tube from the external catheter to that; the downside being that in a > glider, as in many kayaks, the ankles are not always "below" the waist and > the knees are almost always bent. And in many sailplanes the pilot's > position is reclining (to reduce drag). Unlike a kayak, the solution to > these problems in a glider is simple: dive! You can always tell when someone > flying a sailplane is taking a pee. And would the tubes be fitted with one-way valves so there wouldn't be unpleasant surprises in those moments when one's ankles were not lower than one's waist? Inquiring minds and all that... > > Go to www.wingsandwheels.com for more ideas on these sorts of devices. > > > Craig Jungers > Royal City, WA -- Darryl *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Craig Jungers wrote: > On 10/12/07, Tord Eriksson <tord_at_tord.nu> wrote: > >> Found this at USK's site: Travel John. >> >> A peeing bag for ladies gentlemen and children >> > > > <snip> > > Are these items of any use? > > > Sailplane (glider) pilots never know just how long their flights will be > (especially in the western deserts of North America) and there have been > numerous creative methods to relieve one's self without landing. > [sniparoni, the Internet Treat] > I used ziplock bags filled with strips of the absorbent used in diapers. You > can just cut the entire diaper into strips and line the baggy. The bags I > used had a "zipper" to make it more secure. I think I still have a few of > them stashed in my glider bag, actually. In the Navy, many pilots used very heavy plastic zip lock-type bags [MAF Bags for you ex-Navy guys) with a sponge in it. -- # # mark zen -- fort lupton, colorado, usa #-========----============--=========--===- # ckayakr[at]dotzen[dot]org------------http://www.dotzen.org/paddler/ # o, o__ o_/| o_. o__/ # </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ [\/ # (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') `\--------/--------/' #~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~/~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Semi-Random Fortune ... # A bug in the hand is better than one as yet undetected. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Am I too old school with my Gatorade bottle? A woman who is a good friend but a bit of a prude was in shock when I revealed to her why many of the men in our paddle club carry old plastic wide mouth bottles in our kayaks. She asked with wide eyes if we had ever used them in her presence. Jim et al *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Craig Jungers of Royal City, Wa. wrote: > There is a method of securing a bag to one's ankles and then routing the > tube from the external catheter to that; the downside being that in a > glider, as in many kayaks, the ankles are not always "below" the waist and > the knees are almost always bent. And in many sailplanes the pilot's > position is reclining (to reduce drag). Unlike a kayak, the solution to > these problems in a glider is simple: dive! You can always tell when > someone > flying a sailplane is taking a pee. > > Go to www.wingsandwheels.com for more ideas on these sorts of devices. This of course raises the question: how many glider pilots have died while diving and peeing? Are they usually found with their pants around their ankles? Brad Crain *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> For many, many years I have used an old Nalgene bottle as a pee bottle. > Great to have in the boat on long trip and really good in the winter, > where the bottle, after use, helps warm the cockpit, especially the > feet. I'm trying to find a double-use for as many gear items as possible - as long as it works. In a fiberglas kayak it's a Polyethylene bailer (cut-off milk jar), about 1 liter capacity, and in a foldable kayak - a foldable PVC bucket, 8 liters (more than enough for this particular purpose). Both have a wide opening, and both have convenient handle, so it can be emptied out and rinsed in a sea water after the use , - I don't think this changes sea water salt content. For women this may be less convenient, of course. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
As previously mentioned by Jim T., I've long been a fan of the pee bottle (I too have a nalgene that I used), until I came across these in my EMT work--the "convenience bag" (aka emesis bag).? They really do work!? I like the idea of adding the strip of "depends" in them too. https://lifeassistshop.life-assist.com/catalogimages/FullSize/07_pa56.jpg *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Quoting seakayakerjb_at_aol.com: > As previously mentioned by Jim T., I've long been a fan of the pee > bottle (I too have a nalgene that I used), until I came across these > in my EMT work--the "convenience bag" (aka emesis bag).? They > really do work!? I like the idea of adding the strip of "depends" > in them too. > > https://lifeassistshop.life-assist.com/catalogimages/FullSize/07_pa56.jpg I've always been a big fan of simple, cheap, low tech if possible. My experience has been that plastic produce bags work just fine, as long as they have no punctures. Blow into them and see if they hold air. Wash out after use. And you don't have to be in dive mode to use them, so they should work for pilots too. Can't beat the price, and they store in your pocket. Brad C. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Please remove all old content that is not pertinent to your reply including old headers and footers. It's list policy.... this post was modified to meet policy] I have not used that kind of bag system, but found that a "little John" was very handy for a couple of our longer paddles this summer down Vancouver Island's west coast. Looks like the "travel John" would be more compact to store and keep in a cockpit bag but suffers from "one use only" syndrome... (see http://www.cabelas.com/spod-1/0014250.shtml for a "little john") BTW, more info on the Travel John at http://www.traveljohn.com/index.html At 01:36 AM 12/10/2007, Tord Eriksson wrote: >Found this at USK's site: Travel John. > >A peeing bag for ladies gentlemen and children > >Long URL: > >http://www.useakayak.org/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=US&Product_Code=KN-100&Category_Code=KN > >Are these items of any use? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I've always been a big fan of simple, cheap, low tech if possible. > My experience has been that plastic produce bags work just fine, as long > as they have no punctures. Blow into them and see if they hold air. > Wash out after use. And you don't have to be in dive mode to use them, > so they should work for pilots too. Can't beat the price, and they > store in your pocket. But you can't store them in your pocket when they are full after use, can you ;-) ?... Needs to be emptied out (then why not a nalgene bailer scoop, both are re-usable). Another alternative would be tying this "thing" carefully in knot, and storing at some place where it won't be punctured, - too much trouble, IMO. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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