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Good story - thanks. I started kayak fishing this year and hooked 4 salmon before I landed one. I don't know who got hooked tho. Me or the fish! I'm still jazzed about it. I even rigged up my greenland kayak for fishing. On Nov 23, 2009, at 9:48 AM, James Farrelly wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/23/sports/23fishing.html?_r=2&th&emc=th Paul Montgomery paul_at_paddleandoar.com http://paddleandoar.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Nov 23, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Paul Montgomery wrote: > Good story - thanks. I started kayak fishing this year and hooked 4 > salmon before I landed one. I don't know who got hooked tho. Me or > the fish! I'm still jazzed about it. I even rigged up my greenland > kayak for fishing. Fishing out of a Greenland kayak? I dunno...has this been done before? ;} Jim et al *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Nov 23, 2009, at 1:56 PM, James Farrelly wrote: > On Nov 23, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Paul Montgomery wrote: > >> Good story - thanks. I started kayak fishing this year and hooked 4 >> salmon before I landed one. I don't know who got hooked tho. Me or >> the fish! I'm still jazzed about it. I even rigged up my greenland >> kayak for fishing. > > Fishing out of a Greenland kayak? I dunno...has this been done > before? ;} > > Jim et al It has. About 3 weeks ago. By me ;) Paul Montgomery paul_at_paddleandoar.com http://paddleandoar.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Been busy with my spouse being ill lately but still wishing I was out having fun with all the storms lately... http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/11/23/bc-ferry-northern -adventure-rough-weather.html Doug Lloyd - Not so sunny Victoria *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"Doug Lloyd wrote" > Been busy with my spouse being ill lately but still wishing I was out > having > fun with all the storms lately... > http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/11/23/bc-ferry-northern I'm missing all the fun as well. Been home 13 days with the H1N1 Swine flue. Did make it out for a drive last Wednesday to chase the storm along the shore. That was no substitute for paddling. I posted some pictures to the blog (VictoriaKayaker) that night by which time it was blowing about a Force 10 Storm. I was think of Doug that entire evening. Then tonight I saw his post and clicked on the link. To bad the state of journalism is so bankrupt these days. Here we have a ferry that is alleged to be less then adequate for the route it's on. Instead of validating the question the CBC goes to a political hack and gives him a platform to mouth off on. Of course the Government and BC ferries will say all is well and of course the NDP opposition will say all is not well. Who's served by that story. Wouldn't it be nice to hear from a marine architect or someone in the shipping industry who might be able to answer the questions about the suitability of the ferry for Hecate Strait. I lament the state of journalism these days. Gordin Warner Victoria *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Gordin, Looks like I might be off the water for a while still. Yvonne's doctor said her cancer looks inoperable (melanoma 14 years ago, now back). This might be a hard storm for me and the kids to get through - not to mention for Yvonne too. I know you put up a good fight and won your battle. Life can be harsh. Enjoy the days you have. On or off the water. Doug Lloyd "Doug Lloyd wrote" > Been busy with my spouse being ill lately but still wishing I was out > having > fun with all the storms lately... > http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/11/23/bc-ferry-northern I'm missing all the fun as well. Been home 13 days with the H1N1 Swine flue. Did make it out for a drive last Wednesday to chase the storm along the shore. That was no substitute for paddling. I posted some pictures to the blog (VictoriaKayaker) that night by which time it was blowing about a Force 10 Storm. I was think of Doug that entire evening. Then tonight I saw his post and clicked on the link. To bad the state of journalism is so bankrupt these days. Here we have a ferry that is alleged to be less then adequate for the route it's on. Instead of validating the question the CBC goes to a political hack and gives him a platform to mouth off on. Of course the Government and BC ferries will say all is well and of course the NDP opposition will say all is not well. Who's served by that story. Wouldn't it be nice to hear from a marine architect or someone in the shipping industry who might be able to answer the questions about the suitability of the ferry for Hecate Strait. I lament the state of journalism these days. Gordin Warner Victoria *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug, My heart goes out to you and your family. I lost my first wife to cancer when we were only 28. All I can say is live each day to the fullest (something all of us should be doing as none of us know how long we'll be around). Yvonne, your children and you are in my prayers. Miracles do happen - I hope we're due for another one. Steve Holtzman *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug you give so much to others, and to life, that I am sure if you keep going with your usual gusto that you and yours will get the most out of every day. And if you can feel your way to share your trials and tribulations here, we will do our best to lift away whatever small bits of your burden as might be possible. GaryJ Doug Lloyd wrote: > Gordin, > > Looks like I might be off the water for a while still. Yvonne's doctor said > her cancer looks inoperable (melanoma 14 years ago, now back). This might be > a hard storm for me and the kids to get through - not to mention for Yvonne > too. > > I know you put up a good fight and won your battle. Life can be harsh. Enjoy > the days you have. On or off the water. > > Doug Lloyd > > > "Doug Lloyd wrote" >> Been busy with my spouse being ill lately but still wishing I was out >> having >> fun with all the storms lately... *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug said > Looks like I might be off the water for a while Words are small comfort; but they helped some when I had similar need. Sometimes life's just a bugger. May you find the strength to endure the low points and find a few highs to enjoy. Best Regards Paul Hayward, Auckland, New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Doug, Sorry for the belated reply - I've just started shovelling through a logjam in my inbox. My deepest sympathies. I lost my first wife to melanoma when we were both in our twenties. (Hard to believe that was 22 years ago.) Wish I had a magic wand to wave and make everything better, but I don't. All I can say is talk lots and don't be afraid to confront your fears honestly with each other. That way, if the outcome isn't good, there will be nothing left unsaid. And if it is good, you'll be closer to one another than ever before. Hoping for the best for both of you. Philip -----Original Message----- From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> To: 'hmgwarner' <hmgwarner_at_shaw.ca>; 'paddlewise Paddlewise' <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2009 5:13 pm Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Missing All The Fun Gordin, Looks like I might be off the water for a while still. Yvonne's doctor said her cancer looks inoperable (melanoma 14 years ago, now back). This might be a hard storm for me and the kids to get through - not to mention for Yvonne too. I know you put up a good fight and won your battle. Life can be harsh. Enjoy the days you have. On or off the water. Doug Lloyd "Doug Lloyd wrote" > Been busy with my spouse being ill lately but still wishing I was out > having > fun with all the storms lately... > http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/11/23/bc-ferry-northern I'm missing all the fun as well. Been home 13 days with the H1N1 Swine flue. Did make it out for a drive last Wednesday to chase the storm along the shore. That was no substitute for paddling. I posted some pictures to the blog (VictoriaKayaker) that night by which time it was blowing about a Force 10 Storm. I was think of Doug that entire evening. Then tonight I saw his post and clicked on the link. To bad the state of journalism is so bankrupt these days. Here we have a ferry that is alleged to be less then adequate for the route it's on. Instead of validating the question the CBC goes to a political hack and gives him a platform to mouth off on. Of course the Government and BC ferries will say all is well and of course the NDP opposition will say all is not well. Who's served by that story. Wouldn't it be nice to hear from a marine architect or someone in the shipping industry who might be able to answer the questions about the suitability of the ferry for Hecate Strait. I lament the state of journalism these days. Gordin Warner Victoria *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Phil, It's all good. I mean, Yvonne, I, and the two girls don't have to like what has happened, but we will deal with it with hopeful grace, a good attitude, and pull together in love. Yvonne is keeping positive and trying to keep her humour, stating at least in heaven she doesn't have to worry about family finances. Yvonne will be on Celebrex to see if she can shrink the tumor; if not, then chemo in February, as there are no other options medically. We will fight it but accept what we are not in control of and pray for strength when we falter. I figured last summer on the kayak trip Yvonne wasn't herself, but the bad news confirmation is still something you can't prepare for. I'll get some quiet kayaking in with the lightweight used Nordy and will have to wait for the hard core game and a new boat for awhile yet, which is fine. I need to be "here." I'm sure I've had my fair share of wild paddling - yes, I think really I have. I may even try some more kayak solo sailing out on the horizon with my Spirit Sail, imagining the experience might be a metaphor for something, though I need to be at home as much as I can. In the mean time, I bought some bike pogies from MEI for my sub-zero cycle commuting (got to stay in shape). My kayaking ones didn't fit the handlebars. How about a spray skirt for cycling that keeps away the spray line off my back? Hope this is okay being off-topic, but I think most of you know what Yvonne has put up with, with me and paddling over the decades. Best of the season Philip and all... Doug Lloyd Hi Doug, Sorry for the belated reply - I've just started shovelling through a logjam in my inbox. My deepest sympathies. I lost my first wife to melanoma when we were both in our twenties. (Hard to believe that was 22 years ago.) Wish I had a magic wand to wave and make everything better, but I don't. All I can say is talk lots and don't be afraid to confront your fears honestly with each other. That way, if the outcome isn't good, there will be nothing left unsaid. And if it is good, you'll be closer to one another than ever before. Hoping for the best for both of you. Philip *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug wrote: > Looks like I might be off the water for a while still. Yvonne's doctor > said > her cancer looks inoperable (melanoma 14 years ago, now back). This might > be > a hard storm for me and the kids to get through - not to mention for > Yvonne > too. Doug Lloyd Doug , We certainity will keep Yvonne and your family in our prayers. Bob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Kayak fishing is certainly the hottest part of kayaking right now; getting lots of publicity. I'm not sure I'd want to fight a 180-lb tuna from a kayak but I would like to try smaller prey. A few of the BC paddlers go out and fish in the kelp beds or on the reefs after they make camp to get something for dinner and breakfast. I did get some downriggers for the muthah-ship and we have a nice depth sounder aboard.... and the 10hp Merc 4-stroke outboard will troll all day long on 2 gallons of gas. Did I mention the heater? :) Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA www.nwkayaking.net On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:48 AM, James Farrelly <JFARRELLY5_at_comcast.net>wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/23/sports/23fishing.html?_r=2&th&emc=th *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Craig Jungers wrote: > A few of the BC paddlers go out and fish in the kelp beds or on the > reefs after they make camp to get something for dinner and breakfast. Probably not where the most productive fishing is on the coast of BC, near-shore, anyhow. Should be noted many of the popular areas where paddlers gather are pretty much fished-out for ground species (aka bottom fish), and some are in recovery mode (e.g., Broken Group). And, pretty strict size limits on ling cod and similar. Prawn traps are a real bonanza some places, if you can handle the 300-400 feet of line needed to get down to them. Red rock crab via traps are nice, in close. Dungies probably too deep for easy yak fishing, except in more sheltered, deep sandy-bottomed inlets. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
The last I heard, the Broken Group was closed to fishing within an extensive envelop that includes the interior waters. Fishing outside the envelop is allowed, but takes you outside the protection of the islands, ie, you are plunking in open ocean. We were shown a picture of the closure envelop at a fishing shop in Port Alberni. Brad Crain Quoting Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>: > Craig Jungers wrote: > >> A few of the BC paddlers go out and fish in the kelp beds or on the >> reefs after they make camp to get something for dinner and breakfast. > > Probably not where the most productive fishing is on the coast of > BC, near-shore, anyhow. > > Should be noted many of the popular areas where paddlers gather are > pretty much fished-out for ground species (aka bottom fish), and > some are in recovery mode (e.g., Broken Group). And, pretty strict > size limits on ling cod and similar. > > Prawn traps are a real bonanza some places, if you can handle the > 300-400 feet of line needed to get down to them. > > Red rock crab via traps are nice, in close. Dungies probably too > deep for easy yak fishing, except in more sheltered, deep > sandy-bottomed inlets. > > -- > Dave Kruger > Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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