As many of you already know, I'm a fan of the venerable Mariner Coaster (as well as some other Mariners) and recently asked Robert Livingston if he had any photos of his Ursa Micro which was the prototype for the Coaster. Robert sent me some photos and I concocted a short history of the Coaster from its genesis to the current state of SOF F-1s by Brian Schulz of Cape Falcon Kayak in Manzanita, Oregon. It's a remarkable story, really. A tiny (for those days) sea kayak designed by an amateur designer/builder in Oregon morphing into a boat that would become legendary among paddlers for its abilities in surf and rock gardens and then continuing as a skin-on-frame design. I left out the Sportee. :P Story on my blog: www.nwkayaking.net. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA www.nwkayaking.net *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have owned mariner kayaks for 20 YEAR , the XL then the MAX. I also built two SOF kayaks. My SOF play boat is based on the dimensions of the coaster and also incorporated some elements the of the Inuit recovery Kayak.I made the mistake of telling Mat Brose that I based my SOF on the Coaster and Mat proceeded, for the next 20 minutes, to point out the differences. Brian Schulz was interested in my SOF while I was building it. This was before he started his Coaster project. As the Sportee is not a Coaster, Brian Schulz's SOF can not be a Coaster. It may be as good as a coaster. I am a fan of how a SOF handles in the surf thats why I built a sof play kayak. YouTube Video of me testing the latest version of play boat. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfBsVMcFeWs Tom CromwellPort Townsend WA. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
My story was about the chain of kayaks based on the original Ursa Micro by Robert Linvingston. None of the subsequent kayaks based on that concept were exactly like any others yet they all flowed from the same idea. Brian's SC-1 project was about as close as it is possible to get to the Coaster. His F-1 is a kayak based on the Coaster but with his own refinements.. Even though they are all "different" kayaks, even a casual observer can see the resemblance between each to the other right through to the F-1. I thought that it made an interesting story. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA www.nwkayaking.net On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:16 PM, THOMAS CROMWELL <tcromwell_at_msn.com> wrote: > I have owned mariner kayaks for 20 YEAR , the XL then the MAX. I also > built > two SOF kayaks. My SOF play boat is based on the dimensions of the coaster > and > also incorporated some elements the of the Inuit recovery Kayak.I made the > mistake of telling Mat Brose that I based my SOF on the Coaster and Mat > proceeded, for the next 20 minutes, to point out the differences. > Brian Schulz was interested in my SOF while I was building it. This was > before > he started his Coaster project. As the Sportee is not a Coaster, Brian > Schulz's SOF can not be a Coaster. It may be as good as a coaster. I am a > fan > of how a SOF handles in the surf thats why I built a sof play kayak. > YouTube Video of me testing the latest version of play boat. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfBsVMcFeWs *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
The Mariner coaster is unique. I have been on extended trips with Coaster kayakers and their cursing speed and gear capacity were surprising. Tom C. Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:57:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Quick Note - Coaster History From: crjungers_at_gmail.com To: tcromwell_at_msn.com CC: paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net My story was about the chain of kayaks based on the original Ursa Micro by Robert Linvingston. None of the subsequent kayaks based on that concept were exactly like any others yet they all flowed from the same idea. Brian's SC-1 project was about as close as it is possible to get to the Coaster. His F-1 is a kayak based on the Coaster but with his own refinements.. Even though they are all "different" kayaks, even a casual observer can see the resemblance between each to the other right through to the F-1. I thought that it made an interesting story. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA www.nwkayaking.net On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:16 PM, THOMAS CROMWELL <tcromwell_at_msn.com> wrote: I have owned mariner kayaks for 20 YEAR , the XL then the MAX. I also built two SOF kayaks. My SOF play boat is based on the dimensions of the coaster and also incorporated some elements the of the Inuit recovery Kayak.I made the mistake of telling Mat Brose that I based my SOF on the Coaster and Mat proceeded, for the next 20 minutes, to point out the differences. Brian Schulz was interested in my SOF while I was building it. This was before he started his Coaster project. As the Sportee is not a Coaster, Brian Schulz's SOF can not be a Coaster. It may be as good as a coaster. I am a fan of how a SOF handles in the surf thats why I built a sof play kayak. YouTube Video of me testing the latest version of play boat. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfBsVMcFeWs *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Cursing speed? That's a trip I want to go on. Put me down, damn it. BRC Quoting THOMAS CROMWELL <tcromwell_at_msn.com>: > The Mariner coaster is unique. I have been on extended trips with Coaster > kayakers and their cursing speed and gear capacity were surprising. > > Tom C. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hell ya!!! :P Craig (dammit) Jungers Moses Lake, Wa www.nwkayaking.net On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu> wrote: > Cursing speed? That's a trip I want to go on. Put me down, damn it. > > BRC > > > > Quoting THOMAS CROMWELL <tcromwell_at_msn.com>: > > The Mariner coaster is unique. I have been on extended trips with Coaster >> kayakers and their cursing speed and gear capacity were surprising. >> >> Tom C. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Oh Cruising not cursing. I blame the dam spell checker (software) Tom Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:00:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Quick Note - Coaster History From: crjungers_at_gmail.com To: crainb_at_pdx.edu CC: tcromwell_at_msn.com; paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net Hell ya!!! :P Craig (dammit) Jungers Moses Lake, Wa www.nwkayaking.net On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu> wrote: Cursing speed? That's a trip I want to go on. Put me down, damn it. BRC Quoting THOMAS CROMWELL <tcromwell_at_msn.com>: The Mariner coaster is unique. I have been on extended trips with Coaster kayakers and their cursing speed and gear capacity were surprising. Tom C. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Oh, darn, I thought a cursing trip sounded like a lot of fun. Oh futz. Brad Quoting THOMAS CROMWELL <tcromwell_at_msn.com>: > > Oh Cruising not cursing. > I blame the dam spell checker (software) > Tom > > > > > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:00:35 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Quick Note - Coaster History > From: crjungers_at_gmail.com > To: crainb_at_pdx.edu > CC: tcromwell_at_msn.com; paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net > > Hell ya!!! > > :P > > Craig (dammit) Jungers > Moses Lake, Wa > www.nwkayaking.net > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu> wrote: > > Cursing speed? That's a trip I want to go on. Put me down, damn it. > > > > BRC > > > > > > Quoting THOMAS CROMWELL <tcromwell_at_msn.com>: > > > > > The Mariner coaster is unique. I have been on extended trips with Coaster > > kayakers and their cursing speed and gear capacity were surprising. > > > > Tom C. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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