Saturday morning I headed out to paddle with 3 of my paddling buddies. I pulled a tremendous bone head move. I unstrapped the boat, then got in the car to put on my drysuit, it's not warm here in New England just yet. As I was dressing I heard a scratching sound and looked to the left to see my surf ski slide off the roof, and then crash to the ground. While this isn't a big deal for the plastic officiandos. It is a big deal for those of us who paddle the boat equivalent of an egg. My 21' 24 pound all carbon surf ski did not do well on impact. The rudder snapped off the rudder post and the tail of the surf ski landing first ended up with a "fold in the middle" crack in the hull about even with the middle of the cockpit area. The resulting crack is about 18" long going from near one seam all the way across the bottom to the tumblehome on the far side. Bummer. One of the guys was headed near the guy who fixed this boat last spring. So I strapped my boat to his truck, and wished them well as they headed off into the brisk late winter air, for the season opener paddle. They ended up paddling about 8 miles.... Last month I suggested to my wife that I would be interested in getting a new boat, as the now broken boat is showing it's age, and seems to be getting fatigued, with frequent minor damage.... Her response, we'll check the bank account around July, the bank accounts are currently suffering seasonal fatigue. My thought, prior to breaking the boat, was buy a new one and give the current boat to a 15 year old boy, who lives near me. He's got a decent paddle stroke and greatly enjoyed surfing motorboat wakes with me last year. It'll be interesting to see how this works out.... Kirk -- Kirk Olsen *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Drysuits are dangerous On Mar 2, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Kirk Olsen wrote: > I unstrapped the boat, then got > in the car to put on my drysuit, *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall Humpty Dumpty had a great fall Big hunks of carbon and shards of FG Guess it's time for a new boat for ME!!! Anonymous On 3/2/2011 2:02 PM, Kirk Olsen wrote: > Saturday morning I headed out to paddle with 3 of my paddling buddies. > > I pulled a tremendous bone head move. I unstrapped the boat, then got > in the car to put on my drysuit, it's not warm here in New England just > yet. > > As I was dressing I heard a scratching sound and looked to the left to > see my surf ski slide off the roof, and then crash to the ground. > > While this isn't a big deal for the plastic officiandos. It is a big > deal for those of us who paddle the boat equivalent of an egg. My 21' > 24 pound all carbon surf ski did not do well on impact. The rudder > snapped off the rudder post and the tail of the surf ski landing first > ended up with a "fold in the middle" crack in the hull about even with > the middle of the cockpit area. The resulting crack is about 18" long > going from near one seam all the way across the bottom to the tumblehome > on the far side. > > Bummer. One of the guys was headed near the guy who fixed this boat > last spring. So I strapped my boat to his truck, and wished them well > as they headed off into the brisk late winter air, for the season opener > paddle. They ended up paddling about 8 miles.... > > Last month I suggested to my wife that I would be interested in getting > a new boat, as the now broken boat is showing it's age, and seems to be > getting fatigued, with frequent minor damage.... Her response, we'll > check the bank account around July, the bank accounts are currently > suffering seasonal fatigue. > > My thought, prior to breaking the boat, was buy a new one and give the > current boat to a 15 year old boy, who lives near me. He's got a decent > paddle stroke and greatly enjoyed surfing motorboat wakes with me last > year. > > It'll be interesting to see how this works out.... > > Kirk *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
There was a young man named Kirk, Whose kayak would no longer wirk, When he asked for more money He looked at his honey And all he could see was her smirk. A kayak on top of a car Can blow off but may not go far Just pick up what's left Don't feel bereft, And make your way to a bar. Mark made me do it, Anonymous On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Mark Sanders <marksanders_at_sandmarks.net>wrote: > Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall > Humpty Dumpty had a great fall > Big hunks of carbon and shards of FG > Guess it's time for a new boat for ME!!! > > Anonymous *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
There was an old poet named Jungers Who knew that each kayaker hungers For a plausible tale of defacement To allow an old model replacement Without pushing the boss to junk hers Damn, it's catching... Best Regards Paul Hayward, Auckland, New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
It's all Mark's fault. On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Paul Hayward <pdh_at_mmcl.co.nz> wrote: > There was an old poet named Jungers > Who knew that each kayaker hungers > For a plausible tale of defacement > To allow an old model replacement > Without pushing the boss to junk hers > > Damn, it's catching... > > Best Regards > Paul Hayward, Auckland, New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
There was a boat captain named Kirk, His kayak went slightly berserk, It slid off his car, But didn't go far, It simply struck pavement with a jirk. The good captain will paddle again, Insurance will mollify the pain, And never once more, Will his craft strike the floor, For the good captain is easy to train. -- Bradford R. Crain (not quiting my day job yet) Quoting Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>: > There was a young man named Kirk, > Whose kayak would no longer wirk, > When he asked for more money > He looked at his honey > And all he could see was her smirk. > > A kayak on top of a car > Can blow off but may not go far > Just pick up what's left > Don't feel bereft, > And make your way to a bar. > > Mark made me do it, > Anonymous > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Mark Sanders > <marksanders_at_sandmarks.net>wrote: > >> Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall >> Humpty Dumpty had a great fall >> Big hunks of carbon and shards of FG >> Guess it's time for a new boat for ME!!! >> >> Anonymous *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Kirk: Are you covered by auto insurance? Bradford R. Crain Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] A bone head way to start the season... > Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall > Humpty Dumpty had a great fall > Big hunks of carbon and shards of FG > Guess it's time for a new boat for ME!!! > > Anonymous > > > > On 3/2/2011 2:02 PM, Kirk Olsen wrote: >> Saturday morning I headed out to paddle with 3 of my paddling buddies. >> >> I pulled a tremendous bone head move. I unstrapped the boat, then got >> in the car to put on my drysuit, it's not warm here in New England just >> yet. >> >> As I was dressing I heard a scratching sound and looked to the left to >> see my surf ski slide off the roof, and then crash to the ground. >> >> While this isn't a big deal for the plastic officiandos. It is a big >> deal for those of us who paddle the boat equivalent of an egg. My 21' >> 24 pound all carbon surf ski did not do well on impact. The rudder >> snapped off the rudder post and the tail of the surf ski landing first >> ended up with a "fold in the middle" crack in the hull about even with >> the middle of the cockpit area. The resulting crack is about 18" long >> going from near one seam all the way across the bottom to the tumblehome >> on the far side. >> >> Bummer. One of the guys was headed near the guy who fixed this boat >> last spring. So I strapped my boat to his truck, and wished them well >> as they headed off into the brisk late winter air, for the season opener >> paddle. They ended up paddling about 8 miles.... >> >> Last month I suggested to my wife that I would be interested in getting >> a new boat, as the now broken boat is showing it's age, and seems to be >> getting fatigued, with frequent minor damage.... Her response, we'll >> check the bank account around July, the bank accounts are currently >> suffering seasonal fatigue. >> >> My thought, prior to breaking the boat, was buy a new one and give the >> current boat to a 15 year old boy, who lives near me. He's got a decent >> paddle stroke and greatly enjoyed surfing motorboat wakes with me last >> year. >> >> It'll be interesting to see how this works out.... >> >> Kirk *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Sorry for your loss...or will this be your gain? Wild wind storm here today on the west coast. Took my old Nordy out on a day like this a few years, removed the tiedowns and she blew off the van roof. Put a pretty mean dent in the municipalities' asphalt parking lot. Kayak was fine. Yours would have been airborne and gone bye-bye... DL Saturday morning I headed out to paddle with 3 of my paddling buddies. I pulled a tremendous bone head move. I unstrapped the boat, then got in the car to put on my drysuit, it's not warm here in New England just yet. As I was dressing I heard a scratching sound and looked to the left to see my surf ski slide off the roof, and then crash to the ground. While this isn't a big deal for the plastic officiandos. It is a big deal for those of us who paddle the boat equivalent of an egg. My 21' 24 pound all carbon surf ski did not do well on impact. The rudder snapped off the rudder post and the tail of the surf ski landing first ended up with a "fold in the middle" crack in the hull about even with the middle of the cockpit area. The resulting crack is about 18" long going from near one seam all the way across the bottom to the tumblehome on the far side. Bummer. One of the guys was headed near the guy who fixed this boat last spring. So I strapped my boat to his truck, and wished them well as they headed off into the brisk late winter air, for the season opener paddle. They ended up paddling about 8 miles.... Last month I suggested to my wife that I would be interested in getting a new boat, as the now broken boat is showing it's age, and seems to be getting fatigued, with frequent minor damage.... Her response, we'll check the bank account around July, the bank accounts are currently suffering seasonal fatigue. My thought, prior to breaking the boat, was buy a new one and give the current boat to a 15 year old boy, who lives near me. He's got a decent paddle stroke and greatly enjoyed surfing motorboat wakes with me last year. It'll be interesting to see how this works out.... Kirk -- Kirk Olsen *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
for those looking for more poetry you'll need to try another post. On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:21 -0800, "Doug Lloyd" <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> wrote: > Sorry for your loss...or will this be your gain? > > Wild wind storm here today on the west coast. Took my old Nordy out on a day > like this a few years, removed the tiedowns and she blew off the van roof. > Put a pretty mean dent in the municipalities' asphalt parking lot. Kayak was > fine. Yours would have been airborne and gone bye-bye... I'm familiar with blow ways, if you'll recall my post last fall about the runaway boat cart wheeling along the surface, catching air as it rolled off chop... My screw up was leaving it on the car unstrapped - incredibly dumb. I didn't notice any breeze when I unstrapped the boat, it only takes one small gust... I may be lucking out on this one. Last year one of my friends gave me his old intermediate level surf ski, a Fenn mako XT. My wife now uses that boat, It's going to be my boat for the early season paddling. Yesterday another paddling buddy offered me his old boat, a lightweight carbon/kevlar Fenn Mako 6. It has some chipping and peeling of the finish, but the hull doesn't leak. I am going to try to clean up that boat and tentatively get it painted. The price is very good, another free boat. In this case "old" is relative, the boat is only 3 or 4 years old. I haven't heard back on an estimate for my current boat. If the estimate is reasonable I'll fix that boat and give it away. Kirk -- Kirk Olsen *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com> wrote: > > > Yesterday another paddling buddy offered me his old boat, a lightweight > carbon/kevlar Fenn Mako 6. It has some chipping and peeling of the > finish, but the hull doesn't leak. I am going to try to clean up that > boat and tentatively get it painted. The price is very good, another > free boat. In this case "old" is relative, the boat is only 3 or 4 > years old. > > Wow! All of us should have such friends. Is the useful life of those kayaks typically that short? I have boats that are 20 years old that I still paddle around on a regular basis depending upon what I want to do that day. I knew that surf-ski boats are light and quick... but "disposable" didn't enter my mind. :P Craig PS: And with all the news about kayak racers who don't wear PFDs or drysuits even in freezing conditions I'm glad you at least put a drysuit on to paddle in the winter. Wouldn't wanna lose ya. :) cj *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 08:14 -0800, "Craig Jungers" > <crjungers_at_gmail.com> wrote: > Wow! All of us should have such friends. Good friends are a wonderful thing. > Is the useful life of those kayaks typically that short? I have boats that are 20 years > old that I still paddle around on a regular basis depending upon > what I want to do that day. I knew that surf-ski boats are light and quick... > but "disposable" didn't enter my mind. :P The boat life is dependent on construction and how you treat it. The boat that I damaged was about 8 years old. I'm the third or possibly fourth owner. I understand that I paddle the boat equivalent of an egg so I treat it as such. The margin of error for damage with an ultralight boat is fairly low, they don't react well to collisions. I can get a new boat in a few layups. Each pound of boat weight costs about $100 to lose. A 40 pound boat will last longer than I will - unless something bad happens A 30 pound boat will hold up to most normal usage A sub 25 pound boat needs its owner to be nice to it. Kirk -- Kirk Olsen *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com> wrote: > > A sub 25 pound boat needs its owner to be nice to it. > Contact Brian Schulz at www.capefalconkayak.com and see if he's interested in the challenge of building a SOF surf-ski that's competitive. I am pretty sure I could throw my SOF (29lbs but not built to be light, specifically) off the roof and have minimal damage. Brian is the sort of guy who thinks well out-of-the-box; this would be right up his alley. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA www.nwkayaking.net *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Each pound of boat weight costs about $100 to lose. If I may, I would like to ask a nieve question... Could you share the benefits of having a lighter boat? To the extent that the benefits obtain while on the water, can the same benefit be obtained by reducing the weight of the paddler as by reducing the weight of the boat? Thanks, Mark *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Also Kirk, what differences are there with a super-light boat out in heavy conditions, in terms of handling, etc? I know we have talked about this before with respect to FG versus light SOF and S&G, but what about these fitness kayaks? Doug > > Each pound of boat weight costs about $100 to lose. > > If I may, I would like to ask a nieve question... > > Could you share the benefits of having a lighter boat? > > To the extent that the benefits obtain while on the water, can > the same > benefit be obtained by reducing the weight of the paddler as by > reducing the > weight of the boat? > > Thanks, > Mark *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Others may have more scientific based answers... I race so every difference can matter. During the local race series last summer there was only a 28 second difference, total, over 10 races between the accumulated times for the first and second place paddlers (the average race is about 45 minutes) First off I start with the off water difference. I can comfortably walk a half mile to the put in with paddle, water, and boat. No cart or vehicle needed - for walkable distances. The off water weight can be a negative in wind gusts - as I proved at the beginning of the thread. I'm "recommended" body weight for my height. So trimming paddler weight isn't a viable option, for me. Lighter boats respond faster to paddle input. With a 25 pound boat I can get onto a small wave with 1 or 2 paddle strokes. When running with the waves I can sometimes pull myself up and over the back of a small swell and get a ride on it. With a heavier boat I will miss some of those waves. I definitely can't pull myself onto a wave that I appear to have missed with a heavier boat. Light boats do have a disadvantage, your center of gravity will move upward as your boat is a lower percentage of the boat/paddler combination. A lighter boat sit higher on the water so you can end up with a slightly smaller footprint on the water. This can result in a more skittery boat. I like the lighter weight, either catching waves going my direction, or a quick sprint to get out of range when a larger wave starts to rise up. There's also been some discussion of rotational benefits. If you have a long boat with weight in the ends it will take some time to get it turning, such as on the crest of a wave. The lighter boat can "snap" a good distance with a single sweep stroke. A heavier boat won't start turning as quickly, but it will continue the turn for longer after it starts turning. Late last year I mentioned another disadvantage. A tether is required when using a lightweight boat. Blow aways can be a real issue. It's not comforting to see your paddling partners boat airborne as it bounces off wave crests on it's way downwind. I paddle in 40+ knot winds several times a year. With the knife edge bow, and a decent sized rudder I've only had control issues once that I can recall. One place the lightweight boat could get entertaining is if the large swells were running semi-perpendicular to the wind direction. Launching off the top of a wave, with a strong crosswind could end up with some entertaining direction adjustments while airborne. For the boat that I'm contemplating I can get it in about a dozen different layups,http://huki.com/index.php?page=S1_Prices . With the boat weight anywhere from 24 pounds to 40 pounds. If I were spending all of my time in chaotic seas, without much downwind surfing I would probably go for a 35 pound boat. If I were going for distance, or regularly riding the waves I would go lightweight. On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 01:23 -0800, "Doug Lloyd" <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> wrote: > Also Kirk, what differences are there with a super-light boat out in > heavy conditions, in terms of handling, etc? I know we have talked about > this before with respect to FG versus light SOF and S&G, but what about > these fitness kayaks? > > Doug > > > > Each pound of boat weight costs about $100 to lose. > > If I may, I would like to ask a nieve question... > > Could you share the benefits of having a lighter boat? > > > > To the extent that the benefits obtain while on the water, can > > the same > > benefit be obtained by reducing the weight of the paddler as by > > reducing the > > weight of the boat? > > > > Thanks, > > Mark -- Kirk Olsen *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 10 March 2011, Kirk said > So trimming paddler weight isn't a viable option, for me. > ...regularly riding the waves I would go lightweight. Thanks Kirk - that reinforces what I have believed for a while. For those of us, er, slightly over the 'recommended weight', we probably ought to just buy the fiberglass kayak (instead of the carbon/Kevlar variant) and reward ourselves with the saved $300 when we've worked off 3 pounds ;-) ...and we'll work it off a little sooner in the heavier boat ! Just thinking about the weight penalties in handicapping 1000 lb race horses - I believe they are in the region of 1-12 pounds and the jockeys will go and sweat off a pound or two (in a sauna) from their own bodies - to get down to their racing weight. So small amounts do make a surprising difference at a competitive level. Luckily, in my kayaking, 2.8 or even 28 seconds doesn't really matter ;-) Best Regards Paul Hayward, Auckland, New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
As one of "those people", I'd buy the heavier layup and make cookies to celebrate my extra $300. On 3/9/2011 6:09 AM, Paul Hayward wrote: > For those of us, er, slightly over the 'recommended weight', we probably > ought to just buy the fiberglass kayak (instead of the carbon/Kevlar > variant) and reward ourselves with the saved $300 when we've worked off 3 > pounds;-) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com> wrote: > > Others may have more scientific based answers... > > Thanks for the detailed and thoughtful response! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Mark Perkins <marker_at_gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Others may have more scientific based answers... > > > > > Thanks for the detailed and thoughtful response! > > Let me second that. Very cogent and interesting perspective. Craig *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Yeah, A light boat is SO much easier to put back on your car. I found it easy to build a 32lb 18' sof for under $200.00 and if I threw it off my roof nine times out of ten it wouldn't be damaged when it landed. On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Mark Perkins wrote: >> Each pound of boat weight costs about $100 to lose. > > If I may, I would like to ask a nieve question... > > Could you share the benefits of having a lighter boat? > > To the extent that the benefits obtain while on the water, can the same > benefit be obtained by reducing the weight of the paddler as by reducing the > weight of the boat? > > Thanks, > Mark *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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