David Seng wrote: " Steve Scherrer's request for info regarding sources for footpumps got me thinking about creating some kind of archive system for Paddlewise messages. Does anyone out there do already do this? Sure, a goodly percentage of the messages here are just friendly banter and probably aren't worth keeping, but there's also a lot of good info that seems like a shame to lose (well, maybe it's just a problem with my brain, but I can't keep track of all of the good stuff). Any thoughts? (or just not worth thinking about<g>) Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska" Dave, I second this idea. Some previously discussed questions do keep resurfacing, especially as new people join Paddlewise. Archives of threads might be especially helpful if they could be set up on the webpage. For some time now I have saved some of the thread messages to folders on my e-mail desktop (examples--Navigation, Paddling Safety, Gear, Boats, etc.). I could drop those back into an archiving system, and probably some other folks could do likewise. Does anyone have a good approach to setting this up without putting a maintenance burden on someone? John Somers *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> -----Original Message----- > From: John Somers [mailto:somers_at_utmbrt.utmb.edu] > > Dave, I second this idea. Some previously discussed questions do keep > resurfacing, especially as new people join Paddlewise. > Archives of threads > might be especially helpful if they could be set up on the webpage. > For some time now I have saved some of the thread messages > to folders on > my e-mail desktop (examples--Navigation, Paddling Safety, Gear, Boats, > etc.). I could drop those back into an archiving system, and > probably some > other folks could do likewise. > Does anyone have a good approach to setting this up > without putting a > maintenance burden on someone? > > John Somers I know that Jackie (our wonderful listmom) had been doing something similar to this with some thread topics (see http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/) but she stopped at some point in time. I can see how the process could be difficult - do you archive by general topic (as John indicates that he does) or by actual thread topic. How does one decide which comments merit archiving and which are little more than drivel? (I'm an expert driveller myself<g>) And if nothing else, I'm sure that the process could chew up a considerable amount of time (although I think in these winter months some of us have entirely too much time on our hands and not enough on the water). One of the great things so far about Paddlewise is its very loose, informal and friendly atmosphere and structure - maybe doing something like this would be detrimental to the very environment that the Paddlewisenheimers have created. Don't know the answer - hope I haven't opened Pandora's box. Dave (remembering the two old lessons - "Never Volunteer" & "Don't ask questions for which you do not have the answer")<vbg> *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 2/25/99 1:40:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, David_at_wainet.com writes: << maybe doing something like this would be detrimental to the very environment that the Paddlewisenheimers have created >> We keep getting the same questions with the same answers that ignite the same arguments. I.E. Paddlefloats. My fingers gets sore hitting the delete button but I know if I read any SOT / paddlefloat massage I will get pulled into the loop and have to fire off a smart A__ reply. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Does anyone have a good approach to setting this up without putting a maintenance burden on someone? ---------- Too bad we can't hook into http://www.dejanews.com/ somehow. Also, too bad we can't identify the really good threads in advance so we could start archiving at the beginning. ;-) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:51:49 Sisler, Clyde wrote: >Too bad we can't hook into http://www.dejanews.com/ somehow. Deja news allows you to create a custom news group, active only on Deja news. IIRC, you can also password protect this news group. Subscribing to paddlewise would then get you the password. From there you go to deja news and read threads in the paddlewise news group at your leisure. I'm not sure if you would be able to conduct regular deja news searchs on this custom group though, but I bet you can. The upside: Automatic archives that are searchable. Your email account won't be flooded if you take a week long trip paddling into the sunset and hunting for CBRs. You don't have to unsubscribe if you become a heretic and stop paddling, just stop going to the news group. If you get a deja news email account you get an email account safeguarded against spam (it ain't perfect but they weed out most of it). The downside: Deja news can occasionaly be out of service and/or slow. Putting up with banner ads at the tops of all of the pages. Web access required (some people only have email). Not sure if it can be regulated by Mistress Jackie (need to check that). It would sort of be a custom rec.boats.paddle. Not saying I'm absolutely for this. It's just a thought. Avoiding repetitive threads has it's upsides and downsides. Maybe someone new is on the list with different insite than was posted before. Or maybe someone strongly on one side has reversed their position (like that will ever happen :) ). Point in case: A long time ago it was decided that a down sleeping bag was OK since with a little care you could keep it dry. When that thread came up again the majority voted against down this time. If someone just did a search insteading of spawning the latest thread they would have had an entirely different consensus than what came out when done again. Well, I've rambled long enough. Time to go paddle down part of the Arkansas river. :) Mel --- There are three types of people, those who can count and those who can't. -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Now I really feel as though I did open Pandora's box with my initial question! I certainly don't want to change the structure or function of Paddlewise. I think that Paddlewise works well and very effectively accomplishes the goals that prompted its creation. I strongly believe in the old adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". I tried sending Jackie an email asking her for her opinion on the subject(archiving articles), because she had started doing something similar to this on the Paddlewise web page but the address listed there for her bounced - anybody know where we can find her? Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska > -----Original Message----- > From: Mel Grindol [mailto:grindol_at_my-dejanews.com] > Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 11:03 AM > > Deja news allows you to create a custom news group, active > only on Deja news. snip of a bunch of stuff *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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